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  • #16
    I too don't use a guv on my 700N,,
    Never needed it,don't want it.
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    • #17
      Agreed then, no governor needed straight away. Im liking the looks of the limited edition trex 600 does it differ much from the standard model?

      many thanks
      Liam

      T-rex 700 LE- V-bar 5.2 | OS91 HZ | 3xDS610 | Tail DS650 | Switchglo Pro | Radix 710s
      T-rex 600 LE- OS 50 Hyper | 3xDS610 | Tail DS620 | GP 750 | Align Blades
      Outrage Fusion 50-BeastX | Scorpion Motor with Kontronik Jazz
      Blade MCP X
      Spektrum DX8

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      • #18
        the thing is that if you feel this hobbie is for you , and you plan to stay for a while then the best thing to do is to get the best TX you can aford i would not recomend any thing less than a 7 channel, as this will by far will suite all ya needs and will grow with you , dont let people puzzel ya head with governers you dont need them ! untill the time comes and you will know when that is for sure and if you cant aford a new dx7 look at a old 35meg futaba ff7 very good radio and will cover all ya needs
        and yes a t600 is a very good learning heli cheep parts are easy to get and will also grow with you (back in the day like the rappy 30/50 )
        at the end of the day the tx will stay with you the heli wont !
        p.s see wat other people in ya club have most prob spec >< JR or futaba are the best ! better of spending more money on the tx than the heli )
        Last edited by smokingtommy; 28-12-2010, 05:23 AM.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by lgray88 View Post
          Agreed then, no governor needed straight away. Im liking the looks of the limited edition trex 600 does it differ much from the standard model?

          many thanks
          'Limited Edition' is a misnomer, they are probably one of the most common heli's around!

          I don't have a 'standard' one, so don't know the definitive list of differences, but I think the main differences between an LE and a nitro pro are the colour of the head (nice shiney silver), the canopy and the elevator A lever as opposed to an anti rotation bracket on the NP.
          Life's a bitch and then you fly!!
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          T-Rex 500 esp, Quark, R6106hfc - For Sale
          T-Rex 600 LE, Metal Quark, OS55, A395, R6008hs, Multigov Pro
          T-Rex 700LE FBL, OS91H, CGY750, BLS451s, BLS251
          SRIMOK 90N cyber conversion, YS91SRS, CGY750, Radix, BLS352s, BLS251
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          • #20
            Have you ever thought of a used dx7, and what do you have to spend on a tx as I've seen dx7's for sale new at 145
            Kev




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            • #21
              All I'd say is that if you are new to helis this "TRex 600s are cheap" thing is all relative. Cheap compared with 90 models, cheap compared with some makes and cheap if you have plenty of money!

              With respect, if there is a problem for you to purchase a DX7, even secondhand as the previous poster has suggested, then you need to think carefully about your budget.

              I had the same problem when I started and had to work my way up to this level of specification over a long period of time.

              Have you allowed for ancillary items such as a fuel pump, starter, and even basic spares? You can buy a DX7 for the price of 2 sets of blades and a gallon of fuel.

              If you are new to it you are going to crash. That's a fact. A TRex600 crash can cost well over £100 in the blink of an eye.

              If I am misunderstanding the amount of funds available I'm sorry but if I'm not then buy a DX7 and a Trex500.

              (Stands back, lol)
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              • #22
                I never used the 7th channel on any of my nitros.

                Never run a gov.


                But agree if you can the 7 channel radios are better though.

                As for the 600le it has more metal upgrades/bling bits on it than the others.
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                • #23
                  There are 4 differences in the 600N line. From memory its as follows

                  600N Sport (Plastic Main shaft Bearing Blocks. belt Drive, plastic canopy. Plastic blade grips/mixing arms Main Rotor Hub is alloy. Plastic tail rotor grips. Plastic Paddles ) These may be discontinued and are quite rare.

                  600N Pro (Plastic Main shaft Bearing Blocks. Fibre Glass Canopy. Torque Tube tail and Plastic Main blade Grips/Plasti mixing arms. Main Rotor Hub is alloy. Plastic tail rotor grips. Plastic Paddles, Plastic tail Pitch Slider)

                  600N Super Pro. (Torque Tube tail, full metal rotor head/mixing Arms. Metal Tail Grips. Metal X-Shaft Mixing arms. Carbon Paddles. Metal tail Pitch Slider. The metal parts came in 3 different colour options..Blue/Red/Black)

                  600LE As above but additionially added the Metal A arm for the Elevator. The metal Parts now come in two optionial colours. Black or Silver 99% go for the Silver LE as its ovbvious its the latest version of the 600.

                  Not to far away we will be seeing a new tail housing as they have changed to a different securing system similiar to a 700. Its already comes with the 550E

                  Brian


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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by challis349 View Post
                    A chap who used to fly at our club, flew his rappy 30 with no governer and a dx6i, worked just fine
                    I used to fly my TRex 600 NP with 6 channels. No problem. The governor worked too but couldn't be changed from the Flt Mode switch, as on a DX7
                    Mike
                    TRex 600NSP, OS55, MicroBeast
                    TRex 500ESP
                    TRex 450Sport,TT, Scorpion 2221/8,
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                    • #25
                      Your RD6000 is fine. 6channels is enough to start. 6 channels is enough for any electric heli and most nitros.
                      35Mhz is fine with a .50 (600mmm blade) heli. For small electric helis it can be a problem and 2.4Ghz is definitely better for them. If you are flying at a club field with a largish nitro there is no worries with 35mhz. The sanwa is not popular among heli fliers, so you will struggle to find anyone to buddy box with (unless you buy a second sanwa tx - 35mhz txs are cheap second hand).


                      Pretty much all the parts from the different trex600n models are interchangeable and retrofittable as upgrades and spares.
                      you could do worse than get a 600 sport if you can find one. The tail belt is a lot more forgiving of bumpy arrivals which break the tail drive gears. But you can fit a belt drive to the other trex models if you want.
                      I have a sport and an npro. There is no difference in the way they fly. There is nothing I can do with the pro that I can't do with the sport - including inverted autos pulling out low. The extra drag of the belt is hardly noticeable. I fly with sport plastic "bleach bottle" canopies on both helis most of the time.

                      The align governor (packaged in some of the 600 kits) needs a TX/Rx channel to drive it. Other governers can be run in manual - eg a CSM revlock 10 or 20 you can set the head speed with a screwdriver and it will kick in whenever the throttle goes over 25%.

                      You don't need a governor to begin with at all. The throttle and collective pitch are controlled from the throttle stick and set with curves in the transmitter. Your RD6000 does this, at least with 3 point curves which is fine. a lot of radios have 5 point curves, but I'm only using 3 of the 5 points on mine anyway.

                      A governor is not important until you start flying about fast. When you fly some manoevres you end up with pitch and throttle on, but the heli travelling in such a way that there is no load, so the rotor and engine over rev. good pilots will avoid these situations and keep load on the disc, but with a governor you don't have to worry.

                      Take the warning about costs. when you tip your heli over it will cost £40 for economy carbon blades, and another £40 in parts probably. you wil crash from time to time, but if you are careful it won't be all that often. Its a balance between making progress with new manoevres and the risk of crashing.
                      www.heli-extreme.co.uk a good club in south Sheffield
                      600n pro BeastX Align DFC head bls251, 3xbls451, align gov, 600d, 2in1
                      trex500, BeastX DS510 swash, Beast X cutr and carve head DS520 HK3026-1900, Align 425D blades, 5S4200 rev'trix, K&BDD dampers, AR6200
                      "450" superframeSTK, align DFC head v2tail, hk22281-8 on 3S 9650w9257gear commander 55A align 325D hitec digitals Tarot ZYX, AR6100e
                      MCPX kbdd tail and blades, miniaviation bats

                      Dont spend more flying models than it costs to fly for real

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                      • #26
                        Many thanks for all the replies, money isnt a serious issue but it has just been christmas and most people arent exactly flush, id like to try and make do with the rd6000 then possibly get a dx7 in the upcoming months. I still have my starter and fuel pump etc from when i had my raptor 30, so i am hoping there isnt a issue with that. The whole buddy hooking up to another Tx aint gonna happen up here, there not many people flying helis and there no clubs. So its just me and the simulator to learn on.
                        Liam

                        T-rex 700 LE- V-bar 5.2 | OS91 HZ | 3xDS610 | Tail DS650 | Switchglo Pro | Radix 710s
                        T-rex 600 LE- OS 50 Hyper | 3xDS610 | Tail DS620 | GP 750 | Align Blades
                        Outrage Fusion 50-BeastX | Scorpion Motor with Kontronik Jazz
                        Blade MCP X
                        Spektrum DX8

                        Phoenix with Simstick

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                        • #27
                          Since you have time, you should research alternatives to Spektrum also. They seem to be the default radio for one reason or another.

                          I started with Spektrum because of the Blade 400/Dx6i bundle but, after researching others, formed the opinion that Futaba was a better way to go.

                          Go into a shop and hold a few tx's also. The feel of them is very important. For me, after holding a DX7 and then a Futaba 8FG, there was no way I was getting a DX7, even though it meant selling the B400 and changing 2 more receivers at the time.
                          Life's a bitch and then you fly!!
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                          T-Rex 450 Pro, GP780, R6106hfc
                          T-Rex 500 esp, Quark, R6106hfc - For Sale
                          T-Rex 600 LE, Metal Quark, OS55, A395, R6008hs, Multigov Pro
                          T-Rex 700LE FBL, OS91H, CGY750, BLS451s, BLS251
                          SRIMOK 90N cyber conversion, YS91SRS, CGY750, Radix, BLS352s, BLS251
                          8FG - Now with 14 channels!

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