New Heli

[h34ds]

Hi guys,

Bit of advice needed,

After a flying for a while now - succesfully (well using a battery without smashing my heli to bits ) - having a Honey Bee king 2 - upgraded heavily and set up properly by a friend i am now looking to swap to something a bit better.

I like the T rex 450 but not sure, any other options or reccomendations will be appreciated

thanks

[Mutley]

what do you want to do ?, how far do you want to progress ?

If its just outside a larger heli will be better for you, A 450 still struggles in light wind so maybe a 500/600 would be better.

Remember the bigger the heli the more costly the spares but more stable i'd say.

[mark_w]

It depends what you want form the heli!!

I assume you are after electric as you mentioned the 450.

Do you have a decent tx? if not then that would be my first port of call.

Then, I assume you are still fairly new to all this so you want a heli with cheaper spares? Do you want somting bigger to handle wind better? (trex 500 or 550)? The 450 is not that much bigger than the king 2.

Why do you fell you need a new heli? I am not saying dont get one, but if you give reasons then we can advise of what heli would address the reasons

[J-S-Q]

As said above, the general rule is that the bigger the heli the more stable it is and the more visible it is and thus the easier it is to fly. The flipside of that is that bigger helis are more expensive to buy/maintain/crash (and also can be more dangerous and nerve wracking to fly).

Having said all that, it really comes down to personal choice, budget and what kind of place you intend to fly. If you can afford it I'd say go for at least a TRex 500 -it strikes a good balance between all the factors mentioned above.

Any of the Align helis are always a good choice if you reckon you're going to be crashing every now and then because spares are reasonably cheap and very easy to obtain.

[h34ds]

Hi, yes i have a spektrum DX7, soft start and motor upgrade on the king 2. Im not going to sell the King 2 but add another to the collection.

The esky parts I feel dont offer the same value as they used to. Yes im still definately going to crash them

I felt align struck that balance between better heli and price for parts and part availability.

I have been told by a number of ppl that the King 2 is a bit of a sod to fly compared to other heli's of its size. The 450 is what a friend has and i liked the look of it, however, not sure if that was the way to go.

So, to answer the questions - No stunt flying required (yet), electric - yes, size is of least concern although i do understand what you are saying about stability. Basically i am wanting a better quality model to fly and easyish to maintain and repair.

Cost - not stupid amounts - but when i think about the amount of blades and parts ive got thru, im sure id be half way to owning a real heli

Thanks

[Mutley]

Have a look at this

Phoenixtech Flasher 500ESP Kit combo Super Combo

Its a 500 for the price of a 450, can highly recommend WWR as well as i order from them all the time.

[wayne123]

Go with the trex 500 this is a fantastic heli that will give you the bigger size your after so it will be better to fly outside and it's not going to cost you a arm and a leg to fix when you bend it, I started flying last October with a trex 250 and I bent it a lot but slowly got better, after about 2 months I decided to build a 500 and it was the best move I ever made my flying got better because with the 500 I could fly in a lot stronger wind than the 250.

[h34ds]

Ok, thanks for the advice, at the moment i have been waiting for perfectly still days or been practicing a bit in my double garage which i empty just when altering the trim. But i would like a more stable heli. I have had a number of times when a gust out of nowhere has ended up in a rebuild. When ure learing ure on a losing battle against the wind and many other things

[phoenixtechuk]

Have a look at this

Phoenixtech Flasher 500ESP Kit combo Super Combo

Its a 500 for the price of a 450, can highly recommend WWR as well as i order from them all the time.

Thought I should give more info, here is what Russ Deakin think about the 500ESP
http://www.phoenixtechuk.com/v2/dev_...troduction.pdf

[J-S-Q]

I have had a number of times when a gust out of nowhere has ended up in a rebuild.

On that note, another point worth making is that i found when I got a bigger heli (than my original TRex 450) I crashed much less frequently so even though the crashes were more expensive the overall 'cost to fly' was probably the same. I crashed my 450 maybe a dozen times but I only crashed my 600 twice -with about the same amount of flights on each I reckon. You're more likely to survive the 'gust out of nowhere' on a 500 or 600.

[trident3]

My largest heli is a Trex 450 sport - and in breezy weather, it's quite a challange to fly smoothly. When it's gusty, landing is "fun" and aborting a landing attempt that would result in a crash is now second nature. Plus once on the ground, care has to be taken during rotor spool-down in a wind that a side-wind doesn't topple the heli, I've learnt that a landing isn't complete until the rotors have almost stopped.

If I was to start again, my first outdoor heli would be a 500-size and I'll be buying/building a Trex 500 later in the year so I can fly when it's windy. Friends who fly Trex 500s have told me they handle the wind extremely well, and I've watched them fly in winds I wouldn't dare fly my 450 in.

Quite a few folks in my club bought/built nitro-600s as their first outdoor heli, and they've been flying them very successfully with some help from club members. But crashes do tend to be expensive...

T3

[h34ds]

Ok thanks for the replies guys. If it works out that a bigger heli is more stable so therefore less crashes (hopefully) than the 450 my confidence will also go up and that is invaluable rather than a set of blades etc.

I will be looking at the 450 and 500 and bear all this in mind.

I take it the general concensus is Align is the way forward?

[busybody flyer]

I started with a small Blade at home and after crashing into the furniture so many times decided to join the local club. My first purchase was a Blade 400 but as mentioned by others you could only fly on calm days. Having seen all the other guys flying their nitro heli's I decided to buy a second hand raptor 30 V2. This was one of my better moves because once the guys at the club helped me set it up it was a pleasure to learn on it. I have also investigated the Trex 700E but apart from the cost to buy, the field components make it too expensive for me. You may find after upgrading to a better electric heli, you will be wishing you went nitro. Save yourself the money and go straight into nitro, it's noisy but great fun.

[Scautura]

I'm a newbie and I've been flying a Blade 400 in some interesting (gusty) winds. Since I got it I've only crashed once (I've had it four months, and flown at least once a week since I got it, usually more - apart from the one month it was out of commission) and can deal with it even in the wind we've had recently (upto 10, sometimes even 15mph).

That said, a 400/450 should be the smallest to consider as a newbie to outdoor flying, but a 500 or 600 lends some extra stability, especially over a lightweight Blade.

[h34ds]

I have been flying the King 2 outside since i got it. I have upgraded bit by bit, usually after a crash to better parts but i feel the overall quality of the Esky products in general are not of a great quality and the money spent upgrading it to make it a better heli I would be better investing in A better quality model. At the moment I am not intersted in the nitro heli's. You may be right but a slightly bigger electric that has easily obtainable spares will be ideal.

Thanks