If you arent crashing you arent trying hard enough - true or false

[Ewan]

Dear All,

Hope I am not treading a very well worn path but here goes anyway.

I have seen one or two comments to this effect and some others that do not agree and would be most interested in peoples views.

My previous flying hobby was flying sports kites, see www.teamflame.co.uk.

We used to break kites and repair them on a fairly frequent basis and we did pretty much subscribe to the if you arent breaking it you arent trying hard enough. Having said that as we were sponsored the cost of even a fairly dramtic mid air collision would not set us back more than £30 or £40 for replacement spars for the kites and fixing them was a doddle by comparision to Helis.

I have crashed both my MCX and MSR quite a lot and I must say that researching repairs/upgrades has actually been quite informative.

If I will feel the same when I come to start on my B400 with the increased cost of spares etc will remain to be seen.

Look forward to hearing your views

Ewan

[Mart61]

Personally I disagree with the logic for one main reason - I can't afford to keep crashing them.

And for those that respond by saying that I should look for another hobby, if I can't afford this one, well I shan't!

[Tom Burgess]

All depends on how quickly you want to progress I guess.

You don't have to crash to progress, but when you really push yourself it is more likely to happen.

It's not a good idea to enter this hobby if you can't face crashing though, its all part and parcel

[fudded]

I agree with Mart61 on this, I would also like to add, that apart from the financial aspect, I went through a bad spell of crashes, and my confidence took a massive knock. I am only just getting it back. Crashing is something we all expect, but to just try a move that you know is beyond your capabilities is foolhardy

Regards

Sean

[Ewan]

Personally I disagree with the logic for one main reason - I can't afford to keep crashing them.

And for those that respond by saying that I should look for another hobby, if I can't afford this one, well I shan't!

Martin, I can completely understand that and suspect if I get onto the more expensive helis may come to agree with you

[Tom Burgess]

Crashing is something we all expect, but to just try a move that you know is beyond your capabilities is foolhardy

Trying things beyond your capabilities is the only real way to make them become within your capabilities.

Like I said, all depends what you want from the hobby.

[Ewan]

I agree with Mart61 on this, I would also like to add, that apart from the financial aspect, I went through a bad spell of crashes, and my confidence took a massive knock. I am only just getting it back. Crashing is something we all expect, but to just try a move that you know is beyond your capabilities is foolhardy

Regards

Sean

That is actually a very good point that I had not taken into account but now that you make it I can see it. A parralell issue I had was when my MCX started to develop bad TBE it had a similar effect and made me think that maybe it was my flying. It was only after looking around the forums that my confidence came back.

[simplyraptor]

Trying things beyond your capabilities is the only real way to make them become within your capabilities.

Absolutely spot on Tom

[fudded]

Trying things beyond your capabilities is the only real way to make them become within your capabilities.

Like I said, all depends what you want from the hobby.

So would you advise me to try a piro flip tomorow ?

Sean

[Farmer Giles]

I both agree and dis-agree.

You have to push yourself abit when you're learning or you'll very easily get stuck in a rut of just tail in hovering, I did for a while TBH as most of my flying was on my own and there was no-one there to encourage (read push) me into trying new stuff, like forward flight for example..

but I have to temper that with the reality that it will cost a packet if you bin it. I'm sure I could progress much faster given more oportunities to fly and an endless supply of spares but the reality is (like many others I suspect) I can't afford to be rebuilding every other w/e because I was trying to run before I could walk.

I have had a couple of crashes so far and once you've had the first crash then that fear does go away to a certain extent but never totally.

My advice, join a club and get the first crash out of the way as soon as possible then it's done and you can move on.

HTH

[trillian]

Does it count if I almost crash but save it at the last second?

[Allan]

I agree with Tom there comes a time when yuo
have to get out of your comfort zone or you will
be doing bunny hop for ever

[Tom Burgess]

So would you advise me to try a piro flip tomorow ?

Sean

Ha, a bit extreme but that wasn't my point. A more sensible example would be someone who can hover tail in trying a side in hover. If it results in a crash then feel free to use the "I was trying" phrase.

[Sam_RS4]

Crashes or "hard landings" are part of the learning process, rebuilding a heli after a crash teaches you a lot - I would know!

Imo if your not crashing it doesnt nessecerily mean your not trying hard enough, everyones approach to learning to orientate a heli in the air is different, some are more cautious than others. No one goes out with the intention to crash, heli's are expensive enough without having to constantly shell out for spares!

Its about taking it one step at a time with plenty of sim time

[Farmer Giles]

Phoenix is the answer to all our prayers... LOL...

crash for free to your hearts content..