Raptor 50

[moyesboy]

I'm looking at verious options for a r50 as my next model (so far I have flown only 450 electric).
I'm considering a used v2 with a good spec but gyro is an SL560 CSM. Will that give me a similar performance to a gy401 or will it be a pain and need swapping out?
It would be sort of nice if a CSM can be a good gyro as I am not far from their office, but everywhere I read "get a futaba".

[Janek]

The CSM 560 is a pretty good gyro once set up correctly

[robgt]

Well, the 401 is the daddy - however, I'm led to believe that the 560 is a pretty decent gyro.
You may have luck with it, or you may sell it to fund a 401?
Cheers,
Rob

[BobJ]

Hi Gordon

560 micro is capable of good performance but needs carefull setting up to get the most out of it, I am not talking about having to use the PC interface and dive in the settings but just good model set up.
Gyro mounted correctly, right servo (JR 8700G is best for this gyro) right servo arm length, tail bearings in the tail grip in good condition, linkage free of slop but not stiff.
All these things apply to any gyro and will degrade performance but the Futaba's just seem to work even with something wrong, the CSM gyro's will let you know they are not happy by not allowing you to run much gain and the tail not settling down.

Cheers
Bob

[SRH990]

I've got a 560 but it's not very happy, I bought it on Ebay and I really think it needs to go back to CSM to be checked out. I've got a 420 which did sterling service in a Swift and a well setup 560 should be better, certainly at least as good as a 401.

The 420 has been replaced with a 720 which is a stunning gyro, I'm using it with an 8700g servo and they make as good combination. I was so impressed with the 720 that I bought another to go with my Trex 600, turfing out the 401 that was already fitted. Performance doesn't seem much better with a 9254 tail servo which is supposed to be faster than the 8700g, speed isn't necessarily everything.

[Smoothound]

Hmmm I've got a 560 micro on a Swift with a 9254 that runs 150% gain with no wag on a 17.5mm arm which is supposedly the reccomended length

[3dbasher]

560v4 and 720's are all i use in my personal models now... never had any problems with them the just nail the tail, the piro consistancy on the 720 is awesome
phil its obviously running very smooth, i had 120% gain in my rappy 50 using the 560v4/9254 combo on a 17.5mm arm

[Smoothound]

I was so impressed with the 720 that I bought another to go with my Trex 600, turfing out the 401 that was already fitted. Performance doesn't seem much better with a 9254 tail servo which is supposed to be faster than the 8700g, speed isn't necessarily everything.

I have a 720 on my 600, pretty much untested as yet but I do notice using standard rod and 9256 on standard star arm I can rum max gain again without any wag same as my Swift.

Are you using standard wire rod or CF rod on your 600?

[Smoothound]

560v4 and 720's are all i use in my personal models now... never had any problems with them the just nail the tail, the piro consistancy on the 720 is awesome
phil its obviously running very smooth, i had 120% gain in my rappy 50 using the 560v4/9254 combo on a 17.5mm arm

Yeah but it doesn't feel super smooth, its OK but not exceptional, it's a Swift they're pretty crap to start with Also CSM advise against running over 85-100% on gain channel

[3dbasher]

they do seem to go very high on gain before/if they wag, the more gain you run the harder it is on the mechanics and servo, i just leave it at 100% on my 720/9256 in my rappy 50 it holds backwards knife edge no problems, i do to play internaly in the inteface though

[Smoothound]

Both mine seem ok for my flying(no hooliganing about) hold the tail fine but in past I've just been used to winding gain up till it wags then back it off till it stops and bobs your mothers brother

[Disc]

Get in touch with CSM and get the gyro upgraded.

My was a v3 now v4 although awaiting for testing on the Knight

to upgrade a 560 its about 12 pounds.

[Ade_Law]

as bob said. they do work but they need to be setup perfectly or then will be a complete dog.

having said that... even when setup perfectly on some models they just seem to not work right.

Ade

[Smoothound]

Sure mine are both V4 already

[3dbasher]

I've never had any problems getting them to work properly