Howdy and Buzz Fly BE set up help?

[fiercebadger]

Howdy everyone, I have stumbled across this site and so far it has been great, but as with most newbies, I do have a few questions, some which I am sure will bore some people

I have just bought a Buzz Fly BE and have to say, I am not getting on well with it so far, it looks awesome, quality is great, but unfortunately I cant get it to fly at all. I have already broken a few bits and could see this getting expensive if I dont ask for some advice! What I think I need is some set up advice, as the instructions ae not the best, to say the least. So far I can get it to either skim along the floor or get it in the air and let it have a mind of its own, the battery also keeps falling out, which is annoying.

I have done a search, but had no luck? What I basically want is a set up guide for trimming it, so it is more stable and a way of keeping the battery from falling out every 2 minutes, any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance guys

[fiercebadger]

Quick update, I have fitted the training kit and tried to fly it again today, I have tried trimming it, adjusted the swashplate, but it still keeps going off to the left for some reason, even when the trim is set full right. When I increase the throttle straight up, I assume that it should go straight up in the air, or am I hoping with that? Already broken the main rotors, tail rotors and a canopy, so wouldnt mind some help from someone with experience if possible.

Cheers guys.

[t43er]

Hi there, welcome! I've got a heavily modified 4#3b with is the same as yours. They are very difficult to fly as your first heli I must admit!
Anyways regarding you heli keeps going left, assuming you have your swashplate almost even, you should bring the heli up at least 1.5m to get rid of the rotor downward force generated when the main rotor spins up. So it's normal for the heli to drift left if you are very close to the ground.

[col]

Kinda surprised noone has responded to this yet. I don't really have time right now either but would love to help since so many others have helped me out over the last 3 months.

1. The Buzz Fly BE is the same as the Walkera 4#3B. I purchased one of those a few month ago and also had a lot of trouble. Do some searches on this forum for either 4#3B or my posts and you'll find a lot of advise.

2. On take off you will need to push the right stick a little to the right to counter the tail rotor. This is common with most helis (so I've been told).

3. I use some electical tape to hold the battery in place. You also need to place it correctly so the heli is balanced. Get the flybar at right angles to the tail boom and pick up the heli with a finger under each side of the fly bar. The heli should stay level. The 4#3B is usually to heavy at the front so you'll need to move as far back as possible to make it balanced. I actually had to re-arrange all the components and reverse the battery tray just to get mine to balance.

4. Lastly, when you try and take off get the blades spinning and just before is starts to move give it a little burst to get it in the air. It took me a little while to get this but one you get off the ground it's easier to fly. You'll have a hard tine trying to hover just a few inches off the ground.

Well I hope sone of the helps. It's all worth while once you get it flying correctly.

Cheers

Col.

[fiercebadger]

Thanks guys, very helpful. I have been trying to learn indoors, 25ft x 10ft room, so maybe that is why I am having problems. Would I be better getting a cheaper 4 channel contra (anyone selling one, or make a recommendation) to learn the basics with indoors, as I am becoming slightly fed up with crashing. I have a 3 channel Syma S026, but flying that is very easy and there are no skills that can be transferred as I see it.

I cant believe the rubbish way the battery is mounted on the BE as a side note!

Thanks again.

[Richard H]

If you can stick with the buzzfly and learn how to fly that you will be in a better position to fly bigger collective pitch helis at a later date. Contra helis are very stable and easy to fly, will teach you the very basics i.e. orientation etc but if you can master those on the buzzfly then you are in a better position to move onwards.

[anyw]

regarding the battery i use sticky velcro on my blade dont know if you can do the same, if you really want a contra rotating one i can recomend the century spirit but i think you will find it too easy maybe a better route would be a similator like phoenixwhich will more than pay for itself in the long term
good luck andy

[col]

I ended up buying an mCX and mSR while trying to learn to fly the 4#3B. I've hardly used either since I managed to get it airborne. I've been thinking about selling one or both of them. If you're interested let me know.

I'd also recommend buying the Phoenix simulator but to get that and an controller is a big outlay but worth it in the long run.

[Richard H]

I ended up buying an mCX and mSR while trying to learn to fly the 4#3B. I've hardly used either since I managed to get it airborne. I've been thinking about selling one or both of them. If you're interested let me know.

I'd also recommend buying the Phoenix simulator but to get that and an controller is a big outlay but worth it in the long run.

What is the difference between the msr and buzzfly/4#3b (the latter been the same heli really)

[fiercebadger]

Hello Col,

I have sent you a PM.

Cheers.

[davew]

There is little similarity between the MSR and Buzz Fly. I have a MSR and have flown a Buzz Fly belonging to someone else.

The Buzz, is a rebranded Walkera and comes with its own unique TX which you have to use, is a well engineered model but very difficult for a learner to fly.

The MSR binds to a Spectrum and is relatively easy to fly. It's much tackier in quality but well fit for purpose. The MSR is easy for beginners to pick up, can be flown within the confines of a small room, are nearly indestructable and will teach a learner a great deal about set-up without demoralising them - which the Buzz will do.

Don't bother with a Contra thingy like a MCX, there's nothing to learn there and are often descibed as toys rather than models (which I think the BMFA categorise them as). If you are serious about helis, you will be bored with one very quickly.

A learner really needs to get onto a larger heli early on to learn to fly, something 450 sized and with a decent gyro. Thinking that you would need to master the Buzz before you would be safe to move on is completely wrong. There will be plenty of competant 450 pilots out there who would struggle with one of those things!

In summary buy an MSR then go straight to a 450.

[fiercebadger]

Top tip so far, give a bit of right stick action to counter the left, I am getting there slowly but surely. Broke the skids now though. Just ordered new skids and a training kit that clips onto the skids, the O ring buzzflyer one is Shite!

Getting addicted to this lark quick, very good fun!

[t43er]

There are some tips if you are still after one.
1) Give the flybar a few degress of positive pitch.
2) Wrap some solder to both sides of the flybar as the added weight will make the heli more stable.

[fiercebadger]

Thanks for the tips, the flybar keeps moving and will not do up too tight, is there something I can do about that? I dont have a solder iron unfortunately, so could I use some insulation tape as an alternative?

Update: Just donked it again, now the screw that holds the tailboom wont nip up tight and the tail boom moves very easily, can anything be done to secure this tightly.

Thanks guys, you lot must be a patient lot to get the hang of this lark!

By the way, merry chrimbo.

[fiercebadger]

Ok, I have now sorted the tail boom and it is flying well again, however, I am going to put it in the flight case, until I can get to a bigger space to practice.

In the meantime, does anyone have a BNF MSR for sale by any chance and a Spektrum DX5 or 6, seperately or together, I think this will be my next step. Please PM me if you have either of the above?

Cheers.