Second helicopter, first real (ish) helicopter.

[fredted40x]

FILO Not a programmer but have done some and have done a bit on stacks and queus.

I did do that though (habit from using a nitro rc car) but flipped the on off button accidently, luckily the main blades arnt on .


Have just turned the screy on the gyro both ways and nothing helped so looks like i might gett a new one of those asap.

Have also noticed that the tail servo never returns to the middle, e.g. if you push the left rudder stick to the right it will move ok and then when you release it doesnt hardly move back. Is this normal?

[dam74]

Yep meant to write FILO not FIFO but the christmas spirit....hiccup....has taken it's toll

Lists, Stacks, Queues, Trees etc aren't just part of programming, good to see you're aware of them

[fredted40x]

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Well it looks like im going to have to try and get a new transmitter, the one with the twister doesnt have ppm so ive now goto look for a dx6, if you know of anyone selling around us could you tell them my username please.

Would i need a new receiver to use the dx6 as im currently on 35 mhz?

ps. i now own phoenix, cant use it yet as the transmitter is pcm, but have managed to use another simulator wth a different controller and wow am i glad i braught a sim, these things are mad.

[dam74]

Yes but if you purchased a new one they come with a Spektrum AR6200 6ch dsm2 full range microlite rx they cost around £120-130 new. If you purchased a DX6i second hand you're looking at £50-65 and then for an AR6100 which is what you'd want for the Storm (same RX as on Blade400) then you're looking at about £20-25 second hand.

[fredted40x]

Cool, so im looking for this
http://www.buzzflyer.co.uk/product.asp?P_ID=623
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Does it need a nbind plug?

Does the storm use that dsm2 technology?

[dam74]

Yep you wait until you play with Phoenix When selecting a heli kit with a TX and you want to use with Phoenix it is always a good idea to check before hand if the TX is supported by the software. Same goes for anything really.

[fredted40x]

Have found one Spektrum RX AR6100 in the for sale section, they are also selling a dx7 so im going to see how much for that as well.

Cant post in the wanted section so if no one posts a dx6i i will probably have to buy off ebay.

Hopefully this and the gyro will be the last big spend for a while .

[dam74]

I'd say the DX7 would go for around £130 as I've seen second hand ones on eBay go for £180-190 with an AR6200.

[fredted40x]

How does this look

http://www.rossmod.co.uk/store.php?v...turn=store.php

It comes with the dx6i and the ar6200 receiver.

Cant really find many websites comparing the two, one person said the ar6200 is better as it includes 2 radios or something.

Do you know anything about it?

Also do i need to get a new servo ?

[dam74]

The AR6200 is a full range reciever whereas the AR6100 is not. The AR6100 has adequate range for 400/450 and due to the size/weight is prefered. I'm not sure about how well the AR6200 goes on a 400/450 sized heli and somebody with experience will have to say if it's doable. I'd like to know myself as I'm building a Trex450 and have an AR6200 that came with the TX.

The price sounds alright but it depends on how much they charge for shipping. Sussex Helis price includes free shipping and is £129.98.

[fredted40x]

Have got my dx6i and the ar6200, havent done a range test yet but it seems ok, i placed the main receiver where the old one was and the other one under the battery.

Have also got my gyro installed and it seems to be stable although i havnt flown it yet.

Would you say its worth me getting a blade msr to practice with or arnt they anything like the blade 400?

cheers

[dam74]

Fredted40x, I'd seriously wait before you fly it. Hopefully we can get a meet going at the end of this month in Totton, I know Stu was looking into it. I almost canned my B400 today as it had positive pitch but low headspeed, need to make some alterations to setup. Having said that my tail seemed to be fairly well setup as it wasn't spinning like a mad man which it was when I last tried to fly it at Crestwood.

Now you've never flown a heli, just put a new RX and gyro but say the gyro is stable? How would you know if you haven't hovered it?

As for the MSR, nothing like the Blade400 stability wise. With the MSR you'll learn basic controls and perhaps get comfortable with tail-in/nose-in/side hovering and travel. However the Blade400 scares me when flying as once you lose level flying and get disorientated with your controls then for a beginner it's usually going to go in unless you correct it with stick input.

With the MSR you can just let go of the cyclic and it will return to a flat hover, no correction required (given that you don't run into a wall).

[fredted40x]

Yeah not going to fly the big heli just yet, would end up crashing it very quickly i think.

Dont know 100% if its stable but before when you powered up the heli you could feel the tail wanting to spin etc if you held it lightly but now it doesnt now, but yeah i wont know for sure until it gets taken out.

So you dont think its worth getting buying a msr? I have phoenix at the moment.

[dam74]

The MSR is a great model to play with indoors and will give you some idea of basic controls but don't expect the Blade400/Storm to feel the same as it doesn't have the stability built into it like the MSR. So if you gave forward cyclic on the Blade400/Storm it will hold this forward motion/angle until you correct it with back cyclic. The MSR on the other hand won't do this so you have to always apply forward cyclic to achieve forward motion.

I mean buy an MSR if you want but don't expect it to be a mini Blade400/Storm because it's not. If you don't want to fork out the £90 on an MSR and would rather just learn on the Blade400 keep the money for spares
If you really want to see an MSR fly and have a go on one, I can happily let you have a go on my one.

[fredted40x]

Thanks again, it sounds very similar to the mini helicopter my mum has got and i can fly that easily but they are good fun .

I was thinking more off learning which way to turn when flying with the nose towards you etc as its probably easier than on phoenix but i might do what you said and keep the cash for spare and either stick a weight on the flybar or change it to the trex's flybar.