Best Beginner's Buy?

[Disc]

sorry but forget nitro if your a beginer.

get a t-rex 450, blade 400 or twister storm 3d.

you will progress much quicker, and repairs are far cheaper.

YOU WILL CRASH

mike

Dis-agree the 50 nitro is better to learn on

1. More stable
2. not was twitchy by a mile
3. Can go and fly in winds even beginners
4. Flight times with a Nitro Far better
5. Far better visablility of what the helicopter is actually doing

As for crashing doesn't matter what size it is, still costs money period accept it.

[anth.payne]

Just the sort of statement i need to justify this for myself

[Disc]

Just the sort of statement i need to justify this for myself

Simple and easy you live in the UK its windy....

Nitro 15-20mph winds....


450 learning over 5 mph you'll be swearing to windy

[anth.payne]

Simple and easy you live in the UK its windy....

Nitro 15-20mph winds....


450 learning over 5 mph you'll be swearing to windy

...I like that idea

Wife: why you spending so much on a helicopter?

Me: Because we live in the UK...

[maderdog_1024]

each to their own but everyone i have seen that starts with a nitro the progress is slower than that of a small electric.

i live in scotland and i would fly a small electric in fair wind.

[DbyMA]

On further reflection, if I was to do this all again, I'd go buy Phoenix, a DX7, and TWO near-matching .50 sized nitros (probably 600s for me).

Not having a spare meant the primary model I had became the hangar queen, and this limited my progress somewhat.

When I got back into this hobby some years ago and was flying fixed wing I would regularly buy a new model every 2-3 months. So I always had spares in case the worst happened. And it did; 3 or 4 airframes in one day was about my worst!

[anth.payne]

On further reflection, if I was to do this all again, I'd go buy Phoenix, a DX7, and TWO near-matching .50 sized nitros (probably 600s for me).

Not having a spare meant the primary model I had became the hangar queen, and this limited my progress somewhat.

When I got back into this hobby some years ago and was flying fixed wing I would regularly buy a new model every 2-3 months. So I always had spares in case the worst happened. And it did; 3 or 4 airframes in one day was about my worst!

Thats fair enough

So whats the main differences between the Trex 600 Super Pro and Sport models?

As I could buy these TWO for about £800

Or would it be worth going for a pro for £900

Or am I not better spending £300 on parts?

[unwind-protect]

i have a nitro super pro and its a great piece of kit, running an evo52 engine and it will hover inverted all day long.

Wish mine would do that... I have to refuel mine every 10 minutes, even when only flying it the right way up!

On further reflection, if I was to do this all again, I'd go buy Phoenix, a DX7, and TWO near-matching .50 sized nitros (probably 600s for me).

I found that twice the helis just meant twice the maintenance... it always seemed that maintenance time was the limiting factor.

[liambaker996]

sorry but forget nitro if your a beginer.

get a t-rex 450, blade 400 or twister storm 3d.

you will progress much quicker, and repairs are far cheaper.

YOU WILL CRASH

mike

that is not all true mate i started with a rappy 30 and since i started this heli has not been crashed once

[anth.payne]

I found that twice the helis just meant twice the maintenance... it always seemed that maintenance time was the limiting factor.

I got the impression he didnt mean have two operational heli's, but to buy two kits, one for the build and one kit for spares, with one overall set of elecs/engine

[DbyMA]

I shy away from maintaining things that are working just fine, so the 600s take 5mins to pre-flight at the beginning of a flying session and about the same to wipe down and post-flight afterwards.

Conversely the 450, which I do like flying, demands much more of my time when I recharge the flight batteries, even if I just concentrate on the start and stop of each charge cycle (I know its better not to leave LiPos charging unattended - FAO: Fun Police).

Without a doubt, both 600s are put back clean, dry and ready to go again way before the first 450 flight battery is halway charged (i.e. before the balancing stage).

I like the quick and clean of electric, but even with a few hundred quids worth of chargers, you're forever paying with you personal time away from the flying field.

[DbyMA]

I got the impression he didnt mean have two operational heli's, but to buy two kits, one for the build and one kit for spares, with one overall set of elecs/engine

No, I did mean have two fully operational helis that are a near-match of each other.

Which is something I would never have considered doing with fixed wing models unless I was entering competitions.

[EnVeeTee]

In this order:

Phoenix sim + decent Transmitter for future use
mCX BNF (for LOTS of indoor practice you HAVE been watching the weather lately!?)
mSR BNF (for advanced indoor practice)
Trex 450 Se V2 for when you graduate.

p.s. Have you ever seen a model shop NOT selling helis? It's BIG money for them - don't feed them!

[debrooker]

its a tricky question to answer as everyone learns differently and everyone reacts differently to having a model in the air.

What i mean by the above is that, yes you can buy a larger .50 sized heli because they are more stable and have better visibility, but then they can to someone new to the sport seem far more intimidating and if you have spent £800 - 900 on a middle of the road model you may end up taking things so slow for fear of breaking your pride and joy that your progress may seem stagnant.

On the other hand you may go for a 450 sized heli whilst cheaper (not always) and they are going to be more twitchy in the air. Now the word twitchy is always a poor subjective word in my opinion - the twitchyness i encounter typically means my 450 drops or rockets up 10 -15 feet frequently due to the windy conditions at my club's field and this can be pretty scary for a new pilot. On the other hand, as the cost of the heli is less, this may mean your willing to push yourself a little more.

As others have said phoenix and a good TX are a good starting point. Especially with onset of autumn and winter your flying days particularly for a nitro are going to be reduced.

Also with a nitro don't forget to factor in field kit, this can easily add another £150 or so.

Ideally, go and visit a club, see the different models (if you can) being flown and see how they sit in the air.

[HAWK 30]

Longer flight time is important in my opinion, I use to get 12-15min flight time out of my hawk with os 32, in fact I use to land because I was getting tired! spares are cheap enough, £40-£60/ crash on average . Which makes it ideal for learning.