Best Beginner's Buy?

[anth.payne]

I am getting truly confused with what my best option is as a beginner...

I have never yet owned an rc heli, but been looking into my venture for about a yr or two. Been out of the whole thing for a bit and on returning, my mind is possibly changing again...

I THINK my three options up to now is the Raptor 50 (the one I first ever looked at), the Trex 600n (which seems a beatiful piece of kit) and NOW the Vision 50 (which is supposed to be a good budget option)

I've weighed up the pros and cons and decided to jump in with nitro at 50 size - since it will have all the capability up to advanced flying without upgrading, similarly have plenty stability in the field

The way I look at it is that the total cost here is not the issue - value for money is! (i.e if it means spending more on a Trex 600n then so be it!)

Although the Vision 50 seems a good buy at around £170 - you dont seem to get much? Once you add in all the extras you get with the Trex 600 Super Pro kit - there isnt a great deal of difference?

I'd love to hear some opinions from other people in a similar position, aswell as experienced owners.

Thanks!

[maderdog_1024]

sorry but forget nitro if your a beginer.

get a t-rex 450, blade 400 or twister storm 3d.

you will progress much quicker, and repairs are far cheaper.

YOU WILL CRASH

mike

[anth.payne]

My theory is buying one helicopter is cheaper than buying two...

All be it if i progress a bit slower

I know I will crash, as they say what goes up must come down

For what reasons would you suggest go electric? Surely I will equally crash an electric heli?

[maderdog_1024]

Just read your other thread too.

My mate has a raptor 30 + 50, and i have a t-rex 600nsp, unless your doing hardcore 3d they are both much the same. T-rex is cheaper for spares but raptor is a more solid construction. Both will do 3D and hover upside down no bother.

[maderdog_1024]

the reason for the smaller electric is size.

less intimidating, and the repair costs.

blades for a 600 are about £50, blades for a small 400/450 are <£10

[anth.payne]

I appreciate that like for like - you're talking £50, but I thought you could get wood for £15 and glass fibre for £35?

My idea was to go super pro, but down grade in the first instance

Without sounding glib - i'm not so concerned with the cost here - more about value for money, and not spending money twice.

The way I look at it is:

High Repair Cost = Motivation

[adieuk]

also get yourself a sim, phoenix is a good start in learning to fly

[electricsceadu]

as a hirobo flyer, i tried a 600 and sold it after 18 months complety worn out
from your list
raptor 50 it the best option
trex 600 may have cheap normal crash spares but look at the other costs of the spare some arn't so cheap and durabitly isn't good
and the vision 50 i've seen was a total waste of money, it looks so cheap and poor in quality it isn't worth standing room

and hirobo spares prices have come down, so it may be worth looking for a sceadu evo 50 kit (at the right price) or the sdx50 (a really great heli)

i'm off to put the flame suit on from the align boys

[unwind-protect]

My theory is buying one helicopter is cheaper than buying two...

Not necessarily.

If a blade 400 electric costs £20 a crash, and a Trex 600 costs £100 a crash, how many crashes do you need before the blade has paid for itself? (Answer: less than 4)

You can argue that you'll crash the 600 less... possibly. You can argue that the 400 won't hold much interest when you can fly well... possibly (though there are much higher quality small electrics if you're willing to spend the money).

[derrick]

sorry but forget nitro if your a beginer.

get a t-rex 450, blade 400 or twister storm 3d.

you will progress much quicker, and repairs are far cheaper.

YOU WILL CRASH

mike

Hi don't want to start a war lol
But i started with a beam really enjoy flying it but after 3 months with it i bought a raptor 50 and my flying is progressing much quicker, still fly the beam but fly the raptor more because it is easier, much more stable,easier to see so oriantation is better.But saying that i have had previous experiance with nitro engines but if you join a good club you should get plenty of help. I think when i can fly properly the beam will be a dream to fly, But i think learning on a 450 size leccy will take a bit longer than a raptor.Just my opinion for what it's worth. Good luck with which ever way you go.
Del.

[maderdog_1024]

each to their own.

but as a learner id rather pay £20 a week on repairs than £150+

i have a nitro super pro and its a great piece of kit, running an evo52 engine and it will hover inverted all day long.

[anth.payne]

Local clubs are dificult... I live in Wooler, Northumberland

I was thinking of getting something like:
Phoenix Flight Simulator and Esky 6CH Transmitter From Heliguy.com

For now - since I can get started without spending much

Also I'd like to thanks everyone for there input, i'm overwhelmed! lol

My biggest bug bear with going electric is lack of petrol!

Like I say, I'm less worried about cost of repair, more about the fact that what ever I chose is worth what I pay...

[DbyMA]

I bought a 450SEv2 only after flying a 600n for about six months. The 450 gave me something quick to use during lunchtimes, but its no where near as stable as the 600n (IMHO).

FWIW: If I was to do it all again, I wouldn't bother buying a 450 and I would have bought Phoenix and got practicing much sooner.

[DbyMA]

I was thinking of getting something like:
Phoenix Flight Simulator and Esky 6CH Transmitter From Heliguy.com

Like I say, I'm less worried about cost of repair, more about the fact that what ever I chose is worth what I pay...

They're nearly all worth what you have to pay, but you'll get the best bang for your buck from Phoenix.

Get it ordered, practice and join the online sessions

[anth.payne]

Online sessions?

Sounds interesting