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    hello,following crash and advice fitted new ESC to blade 400 and nothing happening except motor is rapidly moving back and forth ,even without main shaft and gears in doing the same,found out first battery had faulty cell could this have screwed something up after/during crash? Any thoughts bearing in mind this is brand new with only 10 seconds of flight.
    Blade 400
    Blade SR
    Blade MSR
    Blade mcx
    Phoenix sim
    DX6i
    Futaba T6EX

  • #2
    my first guess: The motor is running only on two phases. Could be the wiring (the three wires between motor/ESC). Could be the motor. Could be the ESC.

    It's one of those diabolical schemes to get your money: A broken ESC may destroy the motor. A broken motor may destroy the ESC. Go figure

    Have a look at the motor, use a bright lamp and look inside: Any signs that one of the coils looks darker than the others (or are they all toasted? Does it smell like it's burnt)?
    The same with the ESC - Phosphorus smell (like a burning match) means the magic smoke has found its way out.
    Woohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoo -Barbra Streisand

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    • #3
      Hmmm, strange one. the motor case is not jammed is it, power plugs are correctly match in colour, check main gear is not binding. Esc power leads correctly connected as in black to black and red to red etc.
      Mike, 3rd Hampton Scout Group
      Spectrum DX7
      Piper Pawnee 40
      Wot Trainer, OS 46Fx
      3D 400
      P68C Scale twin
      SRCMC
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      Pround owner of an EGS

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      • #4
        Have you programmed the new ESC so it knows what to do on your particular installation?

        Which ESC is it?
        Cheers,
        Rob
        Team Align, Midland Helicopters, Optifuel, Cyclone Blades, Scorpion Motors, Thunder Power, Savox Servos, JR Propo

        | 3D Championship

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        • #5
          thanks all,stock ESC and was told no need to program and did the same thing with old ESC,nothing smells burnt out all leads correct and motor still doing it with gears and main shaft out so nothing binding,could it be i got a duff heli from new? is a new motor the next step?
          Blade 400
          Blade SR
          Blade MSR
          Blade mcx
          Phoenix sim
          DX6i
          Futaba T6EX

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          • #6
            this is a long shot, but it has happened to me, i unwittingly dropped a screw inside the vent holes on the motor & it jammed it , does the motor turn freely by hand with no power ? ( i,e battery not connected ) and if so is it smooth & slick with no stops or binding when turned by hand ?

            also did you re-bind transmiter to reciever after fitting new ESC ? this might help ?
            Last edited by stuskimac; 18-08-2009, 04:38 AM.

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            • #7
              motor turns freely by hand but have not binded tx as i was told it not necessary but now looking like i may have to as it keeps croping up on here
              Blade 400
              Blade SR
              Blade MSR
              Blade mcx
              Phoenix sim
              DX6i
              Futaba T6EX

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              • #8
                when you plug in the battery does the ESC bleep & arm itself ?, can take a while & also make sure the throttle is fully down on the TX, throttle hold off.
                not plugged in upside down on receiver ? check polarity.

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                • #9
                  Does sound like a supply issue, as if the motor is "single phasing" ie only has power / using power on two of the phases.

                  Do you have access to a multimeter of some form, would be well worth checking to see if you are getting all 3 phases off the speed controller, also it's worth checking the motor windings just in case.

                  If you have or can get a meter and you're unsure what to check, give me a shout and I'll talk you through it
                  Ian
                  Trex 450 Pro - Spektrum DX7, Scorpion Motor and ESC - crashes 3
                  Trex 250 - still awaiting build (now have everything I need)
                  Eflite MSR - Fast little begger
                  Eflite MCX - The Bug

                  Whole host of spare parts

                  Proud recipient of an EGS

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                  • #10
                    Thanks for replys yes armed ok with a beep,did a re-bind and now nothing from tail at all and motor still to-ing and fro-ing and gyro not happy now either, constant flashing light!!!! lost the will to live at this point and phoned Horizon direct and they said it has a fault, pack it up and return it to them so that`s what i`ve done.Will inform you of the good news on it`s return..................
                    Blade 400
                    Blade SR
                    Blade MSR
                    Blade mcx
                    Phoenix sim
                    DX6i
                    Futaba T6EX

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                    • #11
                      Where did you buy it from?

                      If you can take it back to them
                      x 3

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                      • #12
                        Bought it from local model shop but i phoned distributers Horizon hobby direct and they said just send it back to them and they were really good about it and turn around time about a week,so i`m going to pace about untill it returns!
                        Blade 400
                        Blade SR
                        Blade MSR
                        Blade mcx
                        Phoenix sim
                        DX6i
                        Futaba T6EX

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                        • #13
                          Horizon Hobby have excellent customer care policy. They helped with my Blade 400 so you're under good care now. It is a shame you ended up with this unforeseen problem.

                          Hope all goes well for you.

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                          • #14
                            just had my Dx6i repaired by Horizon, got it back in 2 days, perfect and best of all FOC, even though it was over 18months old !

                            i hope you get the same brilliant service & back flying soon!

                            best regards,
                            Stuskimac.

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                            • #15
                              If I know HH even half as well as I think I do, the wait will be worth it. I've been through it with my Blade in the past, though admittedly not her fault bless her, all my lack of ability to fly. However she is a lovely heli, and once you get her into that first steady hover mate you'll realise you love it to bits. I've had mine for 14 months now, and although people say you will outgrow it quickly I disagree, I still love mine.
                              John

                              sigpic Proud holder of an Eddie Gold Star.


                              Too many hobbies, not enough hours in a day.

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