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**Disc** · 22-10-2006, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by Starbucks78

Hello Everyone,

I have been reading through threads for the last couple of days and as you all clearly know what you're talking about I am asking for your advice and recommendations.

I am looking at my first purchase of a rc heli and would like your recommendations. I am looking for an electric and preferably small heli for which I will be able to fly (after learning of course!) indoors, in the garden and over the park etc on non breezy days. I would like it to last a while so maybe something for a beginner to intermediate. But one vey important thing is that I do not want a pre built out of the box heli. I take great enjoyment in building kits. Therefore I would like a kit that requires as much assembly work as possible.

Also some advice on average flight times on one charge would be appreciated as from my experience with electric cars 10 minutes would be a good run.

Thank you in advance for you help.

Steve.

Okay I recomend you find a local Club and see what they fly. There is no ideal small electric to learn to fly with period. You can learn on them but they are a LOT harder than a nitro 30 size or electric 30 size.

Indoors you need an area of at least 2 Basket ball Courts. Indoors is not like your front room because they need a lot more room than 15ft by 15ft and thats a large room in a house without taking into account of tables/chairs etc!

If you have to go small electric and have no choice a T-rex wins but there harder than the larger helis out there to fly and twitchy. Cost is about the same as 30 Size Nitro by the time your done as well.

Also flying in a Park is not wise even a Trex can do some real damage to yourself other people or property. They maybe small but they bite just as well as a larger helicopter.

**Ade_Law** · 22-10-2006, 08:42 PM

this thread covers this topic nicely

http://www.rcheliaddict.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2348

Ade

**Starbucks78** · 23-10-2006, 08:40 AM

Hello,

Thanks for the advice so far.
Where I live there is a lot of open space in the way of fields rather than parks and I think I'd make sure no one was about due to possible embarressment of just trying to hover!

Does anyone have knowledge of which Heli's come in mainly kit form because I'd like to build as much as I can?

Thanks

Steve.

**Mercuriell** · 23-10-2006, 07:14 PM

I wouldn't worry too much about building from scratch as it's a fair assumption that by the time you're to hover stage you will have done significant rebuilding along the way

The only part of my Twister 3D I haven't rebuilt is the tail gearbox.

Seriously - it's also easier to understand the build if you're starting from assembled - even though it might be a bit mangled !

**infacto** · 24-10-2006, 01:11 PM

This thread may be what you’re looking for.
http://www.trextuning.com/builda.php

I don’t find a T-rex That hard to fly after flying a hummingbird it seems much easyer.When I do plow it into the ground witch will happen to you, its cheep to fix and if you’ve built it your self easy to fix. No messy fuel or starting probs.
I've only been flying for a few months so my knowledge is limited to what I've learnt so far. But at least this is from your point of view rather some of these guys who think raptors are the only hele out there. One day I will be among them when I start to play with the big boys on the block. But until then
I love my T-Rex.

Infacto

**Starbucks78** · 24-10-2006, 01:33 PM

Thanks infacto,

It looks like most kits are still partially assembled and there is no way to get a fully unassembled kit.!

I have researched the T-rex and it is becoming very tempting, it has had good reviews with a following, and it involves a reasonable degree of building.
Do you (or anyone) know of any package deals which would include everything such as servo's, motor, radio gear etc.. so at the end of a build I could then go fly. It just seems quite complicated for a newbie to go shopping around for all these bits seperately.

I am also temped my small micro electric heli's (maybe as and additional purchase - funds permiting!) which could be flown around the home. A 'micron' needs building and appears tiny, although looks a little plastic & toyish.
Any views or recommendations?

Steve.

**marktigere1** · 24-10-2006, 01:48 PM

Hi Steve

Both www.modelhelicopters.co.uk and www.skylinemodels.co.uk have ready to go T-Rex packages.

Just add transmitter and go fly. Give either a ring, I'm sure they would advise you.

Cheers

Mark

**infacto** · 24-10-2006, 01:49 PM

Try here http://www.modelhelicopters.co.uk/ac...Etc_Books.html
Give the a ring they will I’m sure be very helpful.

I have flown my humming bird inside. But the wife has totally band me after many marks around the lounge. We had to redecorate recently I blamed the kids but a lot of it was down to me.

Setting up is real difficult you will need help!

I still need help all the time from these forums and the local model shop.

Infacto

**marktigere1** · 24-10-2006, 01:55 PM

Sorry

Forgot to add that you will require help setting up and test flying the beast.

Cheers

Mark

**clustermarc** · 25-10-2006, 07:29 AM

HELLO,,,
im like you i am new to rc heli's but have been building kits for years,
but as some guys would say its not realy worth buying an unbuilt electric heli even if you do realy enjoy building, because it would only take a few hours to build and because your new at flying you will most likely crash or land hard and brake parts so you have to fit the new parts anyway,, i know it sounds silly but if you do realy want to build a heli buy one and just take it apart

There are alot of heli on the market have a good look for heli wibe sites you can buy them for half the price then a shop sells them..
But also it depends on how much you want to spend on your heli and parts...

A twister would cost you about £60 to £90.. and parts are very cheap..

A dragonfly4 would cost £60 to £90.. and parts are very cheap..

A t-rexx would cost about £190 to £230 and parts are not that cheap but the heli is stronger.....

I got my self a Walkera Dragonfly4 its my 1st heli and i think its very good and its very cheap to fix... i learned how to fly in my house just make sure you clear out the room, ive hit the walls and floor many times and the only thing i have broke is my landing gear. but it only cost me £5 to fix which cant be bad

and on carm days this heli flys out side no problem....

I hope you find what your looking for!
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Marc..

**Starbucks78** · 25-10-2006, 12:31 PM

I must be a little naive.
What breifly does setting up mean?
I take it that its not just connecting all the servo's and making sure they move the right bits in the right directions?

Would this also mean that by purchasing a RTF model I would not have to go through the setting up process?
Dont get me wrong though, I dont mind a challenge and it can only be more rewarding in the end.

There are so many small heli's out there, no wonder it seems to take everyone so long to decide!

Steve.

**robgt** · 25-10-2006, 01:01 PM

Setting up a heli ensures it flys properly.
It's a matter of making sure that all links are set correctly so that the servo movement not only moves things in the correct direction, but also that they move the right amount.

If it's a nitro heli, then you also have to set up the engine so that it runs and produces optimal power.

These things are all a mix of mechanical adjustment on the helicopter and electronic adjustment on the transmitter.

If you don't know what you're doing with regards to setting up a heli, you would be well advised to seek help from your local hobby shop or club.

Cheers,
Rob

**leeadam** · 25-10-2006, 05:25 PM

even though a trex has parts of it pre built there is still a lot of work involved and even the bits that are pre built you should always strip down and rebuild back up anyway as sometimes they tend to scrimp on the locktight in the factory line..so in the end end up building from scratch...and believe me after a few ...mishaps while u learn to fly you will have more than enough experience putting a heli together. plus as people have said when you nail a trex into the ground it is cheap to rebuild and due to the light weight of it you dont actually break to much..normally the usual...blades...feather shaft..main shaft..maybe main gear and the odd boom...not all these items at once unless real hard crash. I have had nitro helis and have a trex..the trex is very stable for the size actually and a lot better than something like a twister. i have great fun and picking up 3d flying on mine fast. the only downside i find is the short battery life and they aret cheap. im actually getting a 60 size nitro later in year and have my trex for sale on here ...but of course its ready built.
have fun hunting

**Starbucks78** · 26-10-2006, 04:04 PM

Thanks again for your help so far.
Ok, I think I'm getting closer. However i think I'll walk before I can run.
I think I'll aim for a Trex 450 at about Christmas time. In the meantime to get me going I think I might splash out a small bit of cash on a micro heli.
I want to go for a RTF CP model (might as well start as I mean to go on!) and have been looking at a Walkera 52 (very small) or maybe a Honeybee CP2 along with extra batteries & blades.
Although I have know idea which is best out of them. Any recommendations?, or any other small ones you guy's could recommend?
Due to my nature I'll probably dismantal it anyway before I move on to a Christmas project called T-rex!
Also, how long would flight times be with the batteries on these micro heli's?

All comments gratefully received!

Steve.

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