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  • #16
    These are the curves for my 500. They give me -4 and+12 pitch in normal, +/-12 in idleup. I am running a high headspeed, as 500s don't like lower speeds, and tend to "nod"

    Normal:

    Throttle 0 90 100 100 100

    Pitch 35 42 50 75 100

    Idleup:

    Throttle 100 100 95 100 100

    Pitch 0 25 50 75 100

    As I am still a novice, I only fly in normal mode, but the idleup is ready when I am.

    Others on here may say I'm running too high a throttle curve, but I've done this after discussions on here with Lee (Made2Fade), and it suits me. A higher headspeed means IMO the heli is more stable & easier to control.

    HTH
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    • #17
      A higher headspeed means IMO the heli is more stable & easier to control.

      I totally agree
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      • #18
        Tbh I was using Throttle hold as my idle up when I didnt fully understand throttle curves, not wanting to mess up settings etc. Yes it was wrong and I should of asked for help but there you go. I’ve now fiddled the throttle curve to 50, 50, 50, 75, 100 for idle up which seems to work well for the little 400 As for the caliber that is not in the air yet and when it is I will only be flying that in normal mode as if I need to shut power quick I dont want to be farting about with ANY switches!

        As for "young mums with pushchairs" how is that helpfull to anyone? I fly alone in the middle of 70acres of private land out in the country, no danger to anyone but myself and maybe a few sheep

        I find the lower head speed makes all the controls more forgiving/less sensitive, but yes a higher head speed maybe more stable in wind its obvious due to gyroscopic effect etc...

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        • #19
          Originally posted by bill91 View Post
          I will only be flying that in normal mode as if I need to shut power quick I dont want to be farting about with ANY switches!


          Atb

          I don't think you've quite got the idea about throttle hold. This switch is for emergency use, and if set up properly, if you are about to crash, or have any other problem, if you operate the throttle hold it can save your heli from a lot of damage. You should condition yourself to be aware of this at all times - it could save you a fortune.
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          • #20
            Sheep! Can l fly with you?

            No problem with not knowing. Thats why we have forums.
            Brian is right Throttle hold will become your best friend.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by bill91 View Post
              Yes it was wrong and I should of asked for help but there you go.


              Thanks fellas, but just to quote myself, I know it was wrong

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Brian Gifford View Post
                I don't think you've quite got the idea about throttle hold. This switch is for emergency use, and if set up properly, if you are about to crash, or have any other problem, if you operate the throttle hold it can save your heli from a lot of damage. You should condition yourself to be aware of this at all times - it could save you a fortune.
                Whats the point? If I'm in Normal mode is it not quicker to just drop the stick?

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                • #23
                  The point.

                  Well you can just drop the stick but what happens when you get to ground level. do you keep the stick down and watch it bounce because if you up the stick you`re back in trouble. At the end of the day its your heli and we`re only trying to help.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by bill91 View Post
                    Whats the point? If I'm in Normal mode is it not quicker to just drop the stick?

                    Atb
                    Actually, no.

                    1) It gets you into bad habits; as soon as you start flying with any pitch range, slamming the stick down will apply a load of negative pitch, potentially slamming the heli into the ground.

                    2) If you get into the habit dropping the collective in normal mode, doing it in idle up will put you in a world of pain.

                    3) Using throttle hold is just good practice; in addition to stopping the motor driving the rotor, it prevents the heli spooling up when you're fettling with it on the ground.

                    4) If you're using throttle hold to hold the throttle high (44% or whatever it was), stopping the heli requires you to flick throttle hold away and lower the collective.

                    Summary: throttle hold is your friend! Use it the way it was intended!
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by bill91 View Post
                      Whats the point? If I'm in Normal mode is it not quicker to just drop the stick?

                      Atb
                      Because once you move onto flying in idle up moving the stick to zero wont cut the throttle, it will fly the heli down at ful speed.

                      Getting used to using throttle hold when in normal will make it second nature when you get into trouble flying in idle up.

                      Its also worth remembering that its pretty easy to knock the throttle stick when you are carrying a heli or setting it up.
                      You should be using throttle hold to prevent this from happening.

                      Once I have turned my heli on and the ESC has initialised I turn on throttle hold. This makes it much safer to carry the heli. It also allows you to do a propper pre-flight check at all pitch and collective positions.. something you cant do without throttle hold.
                      This is the most important function of throttle hold IMO.

                      When I first got my DX6i I set mine up in exactly the same way as you did as I didnt understand what the different switches were for. These transmitters are pretty confusing for a beginner.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Tosh View Post
                        The point.

                        Well you can just drop the stick but what happens when you get to ground level. do you keep the stick down and watch it bounce because if you up the stick you`re back in trouble. At the end of the day its your heli and we`re only trying to help.
                        Ok sorry I was thinking about when your already at ground level and the Heli is chicken dancing around! Say if you were flying low and fast and got a bit to low... otherwise if I got into trouble higher up ( however that maybe?) and wanted to cut the power then well yes Th hold would be a good idea. I do apreciate your help, just a misunderstanding.

                        Again I'm talking about normal mode/idle up off.

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                        • #27
                          Idle up(stunt) 50 50 50 75 100, hold 0.0, getting used to crashing and using throttle hold even in normal mode is going to be difficult! Defiantly not going to practice it Lol! I suppose a sim would be useful for that ie practice crashing and flicking throttle hold But I see the point about getting into the habbit for when using Idle up.

                          The manual for the Dx6i isn’t exactly helpful, I think they expect you to already know all the terms used and setup procedures to carry out...
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                          • #28
                            " otherwise I if I got into trouble higher up ( however that maybe?) "

                            Mainly thinking of machanical failure (tail fails and its mad piros). Hit hold and at least you dont hit the ground with the head screaming.
                            Yes we realised it was just a misunderstanding. Thats why we`re still here trying.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by bill91 View Post

                              The manual for the Dx6i isn’t exactly helpful, I think they expect you to already know all the terms used and setup procedures to carry out...
                              Just out of curiosity what do you fly your other heli's with if your unfamiliar with the DX6i?
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Sqwidge View Post
                                Just out of curiosity what do you fly your other heli's with if your unfamiliar with the DX6i?
                                Idle up and Throttle hold have been the unfamiliar mate not the Dx6i, hence the reason I've stuck with normal mode until now.
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