I knew it would happen 1 day..

[steve c]

Hi all, well after much tinkering on my rapptor30 i finally got the rev lock running perfect and like i was told before on here " it will improve your flying 10 fold" and it did! From the moment she went up in to hover i could see and feel it was better much better! Faster but controled fig 8's, longer nose inn confidence was high then i thought i'd push it tryed my 1st auto! And thats when it let me know "not yet sonny! not yet"... Came in bounced, tail hit, boom strike game over.... Gutted!!! Hopfully a crash kit will cover most of the parts broken but even though this was all my fault and avoidable i'm still grinning cause it was to date the best days flying yet and once she's back up i know it's only gonna get better!!

Cheers Steve c.....

[gazza]

Sorry about that mate
There seems to be a wide range of opinion regarding the practicing of autos.
Personally I never do. I've done them when I've had no choice so I know I can do them & that's good enough for me (For now)

We go out there pushing ourselves & learning new moves and risking our helis every time we take them out...Practicing a deliberate failure ain't on my list

[trillian]

Just out of curiousity, as you talk about flying with the revlock something occurs to me that I hadn't thought of before.

In just mild circuits, hovering, figure eights etc. or changes in translational lift in forward flight, what effect does the revlock have on keeping a consistent height?

I never really thought about how it might effect normal mild flying in terms of the need to ride the throttle stick when turning into the wind or with the wind or keeping a steady hover etc.

[steve c]

I blame phoenix sim lol it convinced me i was better than i really am lol..

[waveydavey]

Won't have any effect on translational lift. The headspeed is constant so it would be the travel speed and windspeed that will affect the height wouldn't it. You still have to adjust collective for the height changes

[ivor-bigen]

bummer man.
The thing is it happens to everyone no matter how good you are even pro pilots bin them. Its all part of the hobby, dont let it get to you, rebuild and get back in the asap.
I give ya 10 out 10 for haveing the balls to try it.
How i lernt was, every time i land, i hit hold, even if the heli is only a foot or so off the ground, Doing it this way you find over time they slowly get higher and higher with out you thinking about it.
Ivor

[Tosh]

The difference a governor makes would depend on how good the setup was before.

[steve c]

Just out of curiousity, as you talk about flying with the revlock something occurs to me that I hadn't thought of before.

In just mild circuits, hovering, figure eights etc. or changes in translational lift in forward flight, what effect does the revlock have on keeping a consistent height?

I never really thought about how it might effect normal mild flying in terms of the need to ride the throttle stick when turning into the wind or with the wind or keeping a steady hover etc.

well for me it was a simple and steady head speed it allowed for a more stable flite it felt differant than just up'ing the throttle curve, to be honest when i bought thr rev lock i was told not to bother with it yet at the level of flying i was at but i wish i fitted it sooner before when i did a fig 8 gotta be honest i was all over the place too fast,too low/high but yesterday perfect i finally got that feeling of what flying should be...

Cheers steve c

[TC1]

Sorry to hear it came down with a bump......got a long way to go before I have to suffer the same...lol...can't even control a hover on Phoenix yet, maybe I am not cut out for this?? just wishful thinking etc....

[steve c]

Sorry to hear it came down with a bump......got a long way to go before I have to suffer the same...lol...can't even control a hover on Phoenix yet, maybe I am not cut out for this?? just wishful thinking etc....

You'll get there! The thing i find with phoenix and don't know if it's the same with others but you find you can do a hell of a lot more than you really can! don't know if it's a fear factor??

[Fixxxer]

Simple if you can do it on the sim then you can do it for real BUT panic is the problem ! How many times have you had that stomach churning fear on the sim ? never at a guess cuz you know it doesn't matter if it bites the dust. If you could just press the reset button when flying for real then you'd do things no problem but then what's the point the buzz would be gone !

[TC1]

You'll get there! The thing i find with phoenix and don't know if it's the same with others but you find you can do a hell of a lot more than you really can! don't know if it's a fear factor??

Cheers Steve, I will persevere for now.

I find I can take off fly around, hoopla, corkscrew, fly backwards and even auto rotate, and land safely, but I can't hover it...problem is, thats all I want to do...hover!!

Fixxxer: I am fortunate in that I am not a panicker, if it crashes then it crashes, at least I tried, but until I can do it on Phoenix, I doubt if Chris will allow me to progress, which is a good thing, he knows what he is talking about and I respect him and his decisions immensely, and I hope he invites me back to try again.....

Chin up Steve, it's only money m8

[chopperaddict]

Hi TC1

I'm impresssed, I guess you are one of the few out there that can fly a heli around happily, but ain't managed to get it to hover...............

I guess your take off technique is to just get it light on the skids, then add a fistfull of throttle and go straight off into FFF then ? That is doable, but I am intrigued with your landing technique.

How do you get it down without geting to a hover first exactly ?
Ian

[Hangar-7]

You'll get there! The thing i find with phoenix and don't know if it's the same with others but you find you can do a hell of a lot more than you really can! don't know if it's a fear factor??

Well remember, in your sim if you set the wind speed etc then you have an ideal situation ... but in reality - life is not like that - not only wind speed changes from moment to moment but direction varies as well - which does not with your sim. In other words, you can't beat the real thing - sims provide a means but not the full answer.

Cheers

[Farmer Giles]

Interesting that you found the improvement using a governor just doing basic manouvers. I have just got a Raptor 30 which is my first nitro heli and I was intending to fly without a governor to start with. I do have a 7 ch radio now but just for reasons of cost and learning about a good nitro set up I was going to learn to fly it without and then I would understand the benefits when using one whilst the basic setup, that is somewhat glossed over by a govenor, would be good..

cheers