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    Hi
    Getting used to whizzing around the sky now and am thinking of the next step.
    I have S148s on the cyclic, a 3010 on pitch and a 3003 on throttle.
    I was thinking of putting the 3010 on the throttle and changing the cyclic and pitch to 3152s. Is this a good way to go for FF and simple fun such as stall turns & loops etc. or should I buy once and get something more expensive??

    Alternatively, do I stick with what I have and get a rev lock and use idle up?

    Thanks
    Cheers, Lee.
    Proud recipient of an EGS

  • #2
    I'm sure you would benefit far more at this stage from good quality servos rather than a governor. On my 30 and 50's I have a 9350 on the pitch (good and strong and reasonably quick) which really helps the feel of the pitch especially in wind. I have 3050's on the cyclics, which arent that different to the 3152's which will give you a nice accurate and precise feel to the model. The throttle doesnt matter so much, although a nice accurate digital servo will come in really handy later on when you do install a governor.

    I'm sure when you fly the model after changing the servos you will notice a huge difference in the way it flies.

    Cheers,
    Pete.
    Crashed and burned, or just got your fingers burnt???
    Rise from the ashes with
    Phoenix Model Aviation Ltd - For Flight training, Model setups & test flights and general advice just south of Bristol.

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    • #3
      I agree.

      I have 3050s on the pitch and cyclic on both my 30 and 50 helis. They're good digi servos for the money - about £27ish each.
      JR Vibe Fifty fb (YS56)

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      • #4
        The hitecs are a good deal too... worth a comparison at least

        (See my table)

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        • #5
          I really dont rate hitec servos. their internal resolution is very low and the gearsets, especially the metal ones, get sloppy very quickly.

          3152 are great servos. just a little on the slow side once you start getting into tic tocs and stuff but by the sounds of it your not going to be noticing the difference for a while.

          my recomendation is 3152s on ail/ele/collective/throttle.

          then get a rev-lock asap after that. 3152 is a great throttle servo when teamed up with the rev-lock.

          Ade
          www.accurc.com
          adrian@accurc.com
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          • #6
            Thanks for your responses Guys.
            I have been told good things about the 3152 before but the 3050 looks like a better bet for only a little more (Thanks for doing the servo table Jimbob). Am I better off with 3 x 3050s?

            The 3010 is nearly new so I want to keep that for the throttle. I'll change that for a digital when I get a Rev Lock.
            For the other three, it looks like 3152s or 3050s will be on order shortly :-)
            Last edited by Leebert; 17-08-2006, 12:15 PM.
            Cheers, Lee.
            Proud recipient of an EGS

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            • #7
              Guys,

              Would a 3050 be okay in a 60? I dont think the 3152 will have the strength
              on the collective....

              I have one Hi-tec digi in the raptor after I killed a 3001, So far it
              seems okay.. I didn't have a lot of choice at the model shop and needed
              a servo to fly. So took the risk.

              Going to the Nats so I can buy 4 servos for the 60 I now have... 3003
              on throttle or 3001 but after that not sure what to put on it.
              Mark
              www.uavaerialservices.co.uk
              BNUCs - Operations certified
              CAA - Permit for Aerial Work

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              • #8
                Basic servos are Ok,i used to fly until recently on standard 591`s and in fact i still have them on my Raptor 90 for cyclic.

                I do circuits,inverted hovering and circuits,loops,rolls,stall turns,front and back flips,backward circuits etc etc

                Digis are better and if you really want to throw some money at the heli then 3152`s seem good..

                I dont think 148`s are even ballraced so they are not brilliant,but adequate

                I have found a governnor to be a nice addition to the heli but prefer the Model Avionics ones as opposed to the revlock which seems to be fussy

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                • #9
                  On the raptor 90 ideally you need to be looking at 9252's on the cyclics and either another 9252 on the collective or better still a 9350. Obviously the tail servo is dependant on the gyro, but for the average gyro the 9254 is the most popular.

                  Cheers,
                  Pete.
                  Crashed and burned, or just got your fingers burnt???
                  Rise from the ashes with
                  Phoenix Model Aviation Ltd - For Flight training, Model setups & test flights and general advice just south of Bristol.

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                  • #10
                    i have found the 9255 to be better than the 9350. more accurate, less sloppy.

                    Ade
                    www.accurc.com
                    adrian@accurc.com
                    This is an apple free zone
                    anybody can be an Arsehole, it takes real commitment, dedication and a whole lot of effort to be nice.

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                    • #11
                      Although the digis give a slightly better and crisper response i have found that when i am at my best and flying smoothly the 90 flys just as well with 591`s on the cyclic..

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                      • #12
                        I had 9202's on the pitch and cyclics of my raptor 60 when I first built the model several years ago. When I changed to 9252's and the 9350 I noticed a huge difference in the performance and feel of the model. It was far more precise and accurate and a hell of a lot smoother to fly.

                        Cheers,
                        Pete.
                        Crashed and burned, or just got your fingers burnt???
                        Rise from the ashes with
                        Phoenix Model Aviation Ltd - For Flight training, Model setups & test flights and general advice just south of Bristol.

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                        • #13
                          Hi Guys
                          I use JR DS811 alround with the exception of the tail servo which is a 9254 on a GY401, any views on these units, still very inexperienced, so not looking for absolute performance, but hope to progess.
                          Rob
                          TDR (in progress)
                          SAB Goblin 700
                          Vibe 90SG Vibe 500E
                          Trex 700 VBar, Trex 700 BeastX
                          Trex 600FBL, Trex 600NP, Trex 450Pro
                          Kalt Baron30
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                          • #14
                            The DS811's are a good mid range digital servo, they aren't strong or fast but they are digital which means they will be fairly accurate and precise.

                            They will be fine for now, but later on when you progress into intermediate 3d and beyond, you would benefit from stronger and faster servos.

                            As has already been mentioned a number of times, the 401/9254 combo is a very good one and pretty hard to beat. That too will take you well into intermediate 3d, so you have no worries there.

                            Cheers,
                            Pete.
                            Crashed and burned, or just got your fingers burnt???
                            Rise from the ashes with
                            Phoenix Model Aviation Ltd - For Flight training, Model setups & test flights and general advice just south of Bristol.

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                            • #15
                              Cheers Raptorite,
                              All I need now is some serious air a sim time, to move on.
                              Hopefully other projects will soon be done, and I can concentrate on this
                              Rob
                              TDR (in progress)
                              SAB Goblin 700
                              Vibe 90SG Vibe 500E
                              Trex 700 VBar, Trex 700 BeastX
                              Trex 600FBL, Trex 600NP, Trex 450Pro
                              Kalt Baron30
                              sigpicproud owner of Four Eddie Gold Stars

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