contra flow heli's??

[paulcobra]

is it a good idea to get one of these to learn on after flying sim or could i go straight onto my t-rex 450.
if the contra flow is a good idea, which one and has anyone got or know anyone getting rid of one cheap or even better one that they might be willing to swap for non R/C related items?

thanks to all

[phockzie]

Contraflow on a Helicopter, is that to stop it crashing so much by slowing it down?

I think you mean contra-rotation or counter-rotation. or you were joking and I just fell for it... Oh well.

To be honest, I would spend the money on a decent helicopter like a 400 or 450 or even bigger, you will learn much more including respect of the machine which you won't with a contraflow.

[cupracing]

as you have been on the sim, i would advise going for a proper heli, contra are good fun but your get bored very quickly and will end up wanting something you can fly outside.

[Mart61]

Whilst I agree they are only really good for orientation training, I've never got bored with my CX2 or mCX.

[paulcobra]

oops sorry my bad

sorry i ment contra rotating, aint got a clue why i put contra flow.

[derrick]

is it a good idea to get one of these to learn on after flying sim or could i go straight onto my t-rex 450.
if the contra flow is a good idea, which one and has anyone got or know anyone getting rid of one cheap or even better one that they might be willing to swap for non R/C related items?

thanks to all

Hi am only a begginer but i love the cx2 you can practise nose in all day long indoors. At the moment i find sims boring, it seems to me i am learning more with the cx2 especially the way the weather is at the moment. I fly it every evening always nose on. Then when the weather permits hopefully tommorow i will get the beam out.
Del
PS I think the sim will come in handy for practicing 3d manouvers, that will be a bit latter maybe monday (lol) or probably not.

[Dannyyy]

Yeah if you have been flying on the sim, get a 400-450 ish size heli. Like the Blade 400 or Trex 450 Se/v2/pro much better!

[Sqwidge]

Contras are ok but i wouldnt advise using one to practice nose in etc, they are pretty much able to hover on their own making them way to stable to learn anything of value from, on a real heli you have to make constant inputs to counter act the blades where as on a contra you have a 2nd set of blades to do this for you.

They are good fun as stated above and i had one (twister coastguard) and i loved it, then sold it on to a member from here, but if your wanting to learn anything, use it to train your thumbs in stick movements but other than that i wouldnt bother.

I would get a cheap honey bee etc as you can bin these and mostly you just pop the head off so you clip it back on an carry on, these are fixed pitch (FP) and i personally found them difficult to fly so i switched to a collective pitch (CP) and was able to hover out the battery pack on my first go.

Also i know Sim's can be boring sometimes but there is no substitute for stick time, be it real or sim

[derrick]

Contras are ok but i wouldnt advise using one to practice nose in etc, they are pretty much able to hover on their own making them way to stable to learn anything of value from, on a real heli you have to make constant inputs to counter act the blades where as on a contra you have a 2nd set of blades to do this for you.

They are good fun as stated above and i had one (twister coastguard) and i loved it, then sold it on to a member from here, but if your wanting to learn anything, use it to train your thumbs in stick movements but other than that i wouldnt bother.

I would get a cheap honey bee etc as you can bin these and mostly you just pop the head off so you clip it back on an carry on, these are fixed pitch (FP) and i personally found them difficult to fly so i switched to a collective pitch (CP) and was able to hover out the battery pack on my first go.

Also i know Sim's can be boring sometimes but there is no substitute for stick time, be it real or sim

Hi you can set the cx2 up tp be unstable makes it a bit harder.
as a begginer i found it really usefull, my beam is still in one piece after about 20 lipos. lol
Del

[ivor-bigen]

Hi
IMHO
My self and the guys i fly with have been flying around 6 years now and we all still fly dual rotors for fun and some stick time when the weather is not good.

My advice is yes get one!
Now days if you search around the net you will find one new from around £50 all in with charger ect.
i think they are very good for learning the basic stick commands, if you find its to easy knock the trimmers over a little to make it wander slightly.

The joy with these things is you can fly them in small spaces indoors and they are cheap to buy and repair.
They will fly out doors but only on calm days.

If i were to start again my order would be.
1st lots of sim practis
2nd dual rotor
my next step would be eather a 450 or a 30 size IC.
for me it would be the 30IC
the 450 is ok but a hard crash could still cost the best part of £100 (going by a trex 450 with carbon blades).
A little rappy 30 (wood blades) would only cost this much to repair and its larger, more stable and will fly in windy weather with out to much bother.

At a cost of around £50 you cant go wrong get the dual rotor now and if you feel the need, you can get a 450 or 30IC at a later date.
Ivor

[paulcobra]

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thanks eveyone, think i'll have a look round and try and get one(have to sell a few non R/C related items first as just spent my spare cash on a 450).

[Brodie6]

I've only been into heli's for a few months personally and to a certain extent I'm bored of my contra but I let a first timer have a quick fly at work today after I had properly trimmed it and it scared the crap out of him, I would definately say get a Contra and a sim, u'll get used to stick control and see how different flying a non contra heli is when you use the sim, twice the experience, just don't buy a Century heli.

BTW, contra flow sounds about right with some of the contras out there, some r deathly slow and using the controls to move them around sucks the power and you'll have to compensate with lift as it gets pulled towards the deck.

[Brodie6]

oh, one more little thing, I was thinking about asking why people have opinions on certain helis, I've read lots of threads as a newbie and many people pass judgement but don't neccesarily say why or explain themselves, I'm pretty much off Century helis as the one I have has hardly any power to it, is slow in forward and reverse flight and there seems to be quite a few flaws in the frame and components too, just thought I'd say why I wouldn't recommend buying one.