Difficult choice

[Smoothy]

I have not been flying long but am able to control my Buzzfly very well. Still practicing nose and side on with Pheonix.
I am thinking about the next step up!

I like the idear of being able to fly indoors (more time available) + the weather can be restrictive as we are all aware.
I preferably want a heli I could do both with, and give me a good start toward the larger types.

With this in mind a T-REX 250 which is affordable, parts are cheap + great quality and large scope for progress looks ideal.
Or
Twister Storm 3D (too big for indoors) cheap and a good reliable heli from what I have read.

Has anybody tried the 250 T-REX?

Any guidance would be appreciated.

[fatmantom]

what do you mean by indoor flying. living room or sports hall?

[cambs flyer]

I wouldn't recommend the Trex 250 as an indoor home flyer, those blades have serious power and will slice and dice anything they come in contact with.

The weather will clear up soon enough for outdoors flying, and you'll be craving for something larger to fly outside, the cheapest sound set up would be the Blade 400, really only contras & little ultra micro fixed pitch helis are safe for livingroom flying

Other then that the sky is the limit as is your wallet mate.

[scallybert]

GAUI do both a 200 & a 100.

Both of these have good & bad points, & I fly both indoors (though not '@home' indoors).

I fly a Buzzfly @home, & I'd be careful about either GAUI in that space - though it may be possible.

Maybe you need to think about what kind of indoor space you have readilly available to you, or whether you can just as often go to a bigger outdoor space.

[machasm]

TBH you can't really fly any CP helis indoors unless you have a very large space (we are talking sports hall or at least church hall size here).
Even if you had this sort of space the small CP helis (Trex 250, walkera 4G3, Guai) are extremely difficult to fly purely as a result of their size.
So are not suited to a beginner anyway.
If you really want to go CP then you are realistically going to have to fly outside.
Even then you are going to need more than a garden. A small park or, ideally, a club field.
If you go down this route then a twister 3D would seem like a good start as its relatively cheap yet capable machine.
I would say practise more on phoenix first and if you can hover in all orientations with your buzzfly then you should be ready to take on the T3D.

[matt27]

if your going down the blade 400 route they do do a bind n fly one but its actually called the plug n play i think
not sure if it over here yet tho

[Smoothy]

I was thinking about flying at home but I must admit I was concerned about rotor speed and possible damage.

Moving outdoor and indoor (sports hall flying) then, what would be more future proof?

i.e. Twister Storm 3D (Blade) or T-Rex 250
I am concentrating on these 3 because my local model shop has the spares.

My understanding is that the T-Rex would be more flexible and more precise than the Storm (Blade) due to its superia conponents. But the T.Rex is a small heli and may be more twitchy than the Storm (Blade)?

I will be concentrating on Phoenix until I am able to control hover and reactions, before moving to outdoor heli.

[machasm]

I was thinking about flying at home but I must admit I was concerned about rotor speed and possible damage.

Moving outdoor and indoor (sports hall flying) then, what would be more future proof?

i.e. Twister Storm 3D (Blade) or T-Rex 250
I am concentrating on these 3 because my local model shop has the spares.

My understanding is that the T-Rex would be more flexible and more precise than the Storm (Blade) due to its superia conponents. But the T.Rex is a small heli and may be more twitchy than the Storm (Blade)?

I will be concentrating on Phoenix until I am able to control hover and reactions, before moving to outdoor heli.

Got it in one.
I believe that you would be better off with the blade or t3d the 250 is a handful even for experienced flyers.

[Tom Burgess]

I maidened my 250 last night and let me tell you it is not the right thing to be learning on. Great heli yes but not for training. A blade 400 or twister (same heli basically) would be the way to go i guess. But yes you need to move outside with these helis.

[Smoothy]

Thanks everyone
Twister or Blade it is then.
Saved me some cash as well

You can always trust Heliaddicts for the right answer.

[scallybert]

TBH you can't really fly any CP helis indoors unless you have a very large space (we are talking sports hall or at least church hall size here).
Even if you had this sort of space the small CP helis (Trex 250, walkera 4G3, Guai) are extremely difficult to fly purely as a result of their size.
So are not suited to a beginner anyway.

Sorry, I respectfully (and politely) disagree completely. Well, almost...

I did a lot of learning with a GAUI 100 3-blade (bit weird), and a GAUI EP100 SE Pro.

The 3 blade is a bit weird, but I had some pretty outsized training gear on it, and never replaced/broke a part in probably 100 hours of beginner flying. (I did crash...)

A suitably set-up SE Pro is a complete pussycat. (I strapped a 30cm C/F spar across the undercarriage to give some protection against bad landings.)

You *do* need a big room - but nowhere near a church hall size for learning to hover, etc. A double garage would probably do.

Here's some well old video of the 3 blade (and a Buzzfly), to give an idea of the space needed http://www.crushkilldestroy.co.uk/carp/ .

No skilled pilot was involved. Note the training gear is bigger than the rotors..! (Also note that without the training gear, the 3-blade is a real handful (but fun), as it has no stabilisation.)

The GAUI H200 is probably nicer than the SE Pro, but is better with more space, as it will do more damage to people and things.

If you can get regular access to a suitable indoor space, I think these little GAUIs are worth considering.

[Smoothy]

Where can you buy a GAUI Heli - found 3 sites for spares but no complete Heli's?

[machasm]

Sorry, I respectfully (and politely) disagree completely. Well, almost...

I did a lot of learning with a GAUI 100 3-blade (bit weird), and a GAUI EP100 SE Pro.

The 3 blade is a bit weird, but I had some pretty outsized training gear on it, and never replaced/broke a part in probably 100 hours of beginner flying. (I did crash...)

A suitably set-up SE Pro is a complete pussycat. (I strapped a 30cm C/F spar across the undercarriage to give some protection against bad landings.)

You *do* need a big room - but nowhere near a church hall size for learning to hover, etc. A double garage would probably do.

Here's some well old video of the 3 blade (and a Buzzfly), to give an idea of the space needed http://www.crushkilldestroy.co.uk/carp/ .

No skilled pilot was involved. Note the training gear is bigger than the rotors..! (Also note that without the training gear, the 3-blade is a real handful (but fun), as it has no stabilisation.)

The GAUI H200 is probably nicer than the SE Pro, but is better with more space, as it will do more damage to people and things.

If you can get regular access to a suitable indoor space, I think these little GAUIs are worth considering.

I was referring to CP (collective pitch) helis.
Of course a small fixed pitch heli is doable (In fact I have a 4#3B myself and regularly fly it in my house.

[cambs flyer]

if your going down the blade 400 route they do do a bind n fly one but its actually called the plug n play i think
not sure if it over here yet tho

Hi Matt

I've heard this on the grape vine which will be great as I've always fancied one, but not to buy the complete set up.

[scallybert]

I was referring to CP (collective pitch) helis.
Of course a small fixed pitch heli is doable (In fact I have a 4#3B myself and regularly fly it in my house.

Er..?

The GAUIs I'm talking about are CP.

The first video is a BuzzFly, but the second is a 3 Blade Pixy-Zap/Mini-Zoom. Definitely CP.

http://www.buzzflyer.co.uk/Sub-Micro...lade/p-97-677/ has some good pictures.

http://www.gaui.com.tw/html-en/produ...00/100_3b.html

http://www.gaui.com.tw/images/ep100/100_3b/6.jpg

There's no video there of my SE Pro or H200, but these are full-blown Bell-Hiller, and you can put some decent kit on them - DS760, LT2100T, CC-Phoenix, etc. And get 10 minutes flying form a £13 LiPo.

Or have I got confused here..?