Phoenix SIM and 3D

[DBK]

Two questions:

1. I have found that learning on Phoenix is much more difficult with different models versus others. For example, the TREX 450 is much more sensitive to stick movements then either the TREX 500 or 600. I can hover easily with the latter two but the 450 is very difficult dut to stick sensitivity. Why is this? Also, the larger models are much easier to see on the SIM unless you zoom in.

Are there model settings I can chnage to get the TREX 450 more close to real life it I want this to be my first purchase or should I go with a larger model form the start to avoid crashes.


2. Is there a tutorial anywhere in Pheonix to demonstrate how to learn basic 3 D like inverted hover and vertical flight etc??? The 3D stuff seems impossible to learn on the sim and I would never even try on the real thing for fear of immediate crashes.

Thanks for the help. BTY I just bought a Blade MCX and this helps to understand stick movements in real life when the copter is facing you or to the side. It is like having a real life SIM without worry about crashes. Of course it is nothing like the difficulty of single blade but helps to learn.

[Mike W]

You wil find that the little helis actually are alot twitchier than there bigger brothers in real life and in the sim as well ... You can always adds expo to dumb it down a bit and make it less twitchier around center stick ....
As for learning on the sim and for real flying ... sim = reset if you crash ...... real life = money to spend and a heli to fix which is always at the back of your mind when you are learning ....TBH if you can hover in a sim you should be ok with a real heli .. but... you have to take into acount wind and sun and depth perception with real flight ... As for size ... Fly what you want to .. The bigger helis 30 size and above are alot easier to learn on than say a 450 size heli ...

As for learning to fly ... learn hover all orientations right way up ... then circuits, loops, rolls.... then inverted hovering all orientations ... then inverted circuits .... then backwards circuits ... when you have mastered these then you are ready to try 3D

[james newbee]

You say the sun ???
Please explicate

[Mike W]

Well depending on what time of day and what time of year the sun comes into play alot with orientation of the model in relation to the sky and where you are flying ...It's the same with a dull sky as well ... People dont really take notice of the lighting conditions and just look at wind and rain and the temps ... Where I fly at this time of year the sun is really low in the sky facing the pilots box thus making it a little hard sometimes to see the model ....Hope this clears it up ...

[moyesboy]

The 450 on phoenix is based on someones 450 that has a really worn out sloppy rotor head I reckon. In real life the 450 should be a lot more stable in the hover than the phoenix version (mine is).
There is a number you can change in the edit model peramiters for hovering stability if it is too skittish for you.

[DIJ]

Well depending on what time of day and what time of year the sun comes into play alot with orientation of the model in relation to the sky and where you are flying

Totally agree with that, and I would also add that another easy mistake to make is to fly the heli to close to the sun, especially when the sun is low on the horizon. I almost lost one that way when I was just starting out.