Radio gear

[Chris Simmers]

Hello everyone,
I am very new to this, I have just received my Buzz Fly CX today. I would like to get a Spektrum DX 6i or 7 for the CX so if and when I upgrade to a bigger helicopter I am familiar with the radio gear. I am also going to get the Phoenix RC sim, working offshore I have a month of no flying.
I have two questions (for now)
1. Is this the right way to go?
2. What is the difference between Mode 1 and mode 2?

Any advice would be welcome

Chris

[Dashik]

Mode 1 or 2,


Mode 2 is the way most people fly here in the uk. Throttle and collective are both on the left stick along with the rudder(tail).

Cyclic controls, on the right stick.

Mode 1 is throttle on right stick for evil deviants.............

Welcome to the Forums btw and yes you seem to have a good plan for futire progress.

You will save a fortune with Phoenix and I would say get a DX7 as its all you will ever need probably

[cambs flyer]

Hi Chris and welcome.

I think your find the Buzz Flys AKA 4#3 class heli's can't be used with anything other then there stock controllers, and TBH even if it was possible they don't need Trannys that high spec, there very simple to adjust and learn on.

Good luck and happy flying

Oh yes, 99% of heli flyer's prefer Mode 2.

[electricsceadu]

mode 2 (this is what most heli flyers use)
on the left stick up/down is the throttle and pitch, left/right is the rudder
on the right stick up/down is fore/aft cyclic (forwards/backwards), left/right is left/right cyclic


mode 1 (used mainly by fixed wing pilots)
left stick up/down is the fore/aft cyclic, left/right is the rudder
right stick up/down is the throttle and pitch, left/right is the left/right cyclic

if you're flying heli's go with mode 2

if you are looking at going to a bigger heli then the dx7 is the better choice as you will be able to use a heading hold (hh) gyro and a governor on a nitro heli
or hh gyro and retracts on a scale machine

if you go for the dx6i then you can only have one spare channel to use as the std heli will use 5 channels, so you could only have a hh gyro
or a governor
or retracts
but not hh gyro and governor , hh gyro and retracts etc
the dx6i also use's dry cell batteries in the tx which i don't like, the dx7 use's a rechargeable battery pack
the dx6i isn't a bad radio but the dx7 is a better choice


the phoenix is a good sim and you can down load updated models and flying sites for free from them

[Eddie]

Hello everyone,
I am very new to this, I have just received my Buzz Fly CX today. I would like to get a Spektrum DX 6i or 7 for the CX so if and when I upgrade to a bigger helicopter I am familiar with the radio gear. I am also going to get the Phoenix RC sim, working offshore I have a month of no flying.
I have two questions (for now)
1. Is this the right way to go?
2. What is the difference between Mode 1 and mode 2?

Any advice would be welcome

Chris

Chris, firstly welcome the forum, like you I started with the BuzzFly CX (aka Walkera 5G6) great little coaxial heli and I still fly mine daily for practice. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCrqr2WD85U[/ame]

You’ve made the wise choice to start with Coaxial and when ready…………..and only you will know, then progress to FP (Fixed Pitch) or CP (Collective Pitch)

My progression to FP, which was not without incident, it was the BuzzFly (aka Walkera 4#3) great heli once you can master it and again fly daily.

This heli has now been upgraded twice to 4#3B and a few forum members swear by them especially cambsflyer.

I think once you are at the FP stage you’ve probably got the bug and there’ll be no egg talk! Just sharing knowledge.

Good luck and look forward to your progress

[Eddie]

Chris, sorry missed out the TX situation.........I'm afraid you are stuck with the BuzzFly (Walkera) TX as Wayne has already pointed out...............sorry the DX6i/DX7 are not compatible

[Chris Simmers]

Thank you all for your advice, I cant wait until I get home to start flying. I will hold off on the DX 6i/7 but as will get the Phoenix, Buzzflyer told me that "they will have the connecting lead for the Buzz Fly TX some time" does anyone else supply it.

[cambs flyer]

Buy some spare main motors for your Buzzie, would also suggest a balance bar & main shaft plus Boom.

But purchase at least 3 extra motors, plus Buzz Flyer sell two quality Philip's screwdrivers that'll fit all the small screws, and use an old or new motor to magnetise the two screwdrivers, as it'll make motor removal much easier without removing the battery tray to reach the two motor screws for example.

[Rotorhead]

I'd go for the 7 channel set minimum, maybe consider going for the FF7 2.4 instead, dont bother with the 6EX, IMO the FASST system is more secure, and six channels will severely limit your progress in future, you will want 7 channels eventually for things like governors for example, plus the extra programming features you get on the 7 channel sets (the main advantage at such an early stage)

[Made2Fade]

IMO the FASST system is more secure

Hi mate, can you tell me how you came to this conclusion when not so long ago Futaba were recalling certain 6EXH and FF7 2.4?
Cheers
Lee

[Rotorhead]

Protocal capability and QC are two different things, and if you want to talk about a bad system........ how about the Spekrum brown out problems.......

IMO FASST is a better way of doing things, not sticking to one or two fixed channels.

At events for example far more FASST (FHSS frequency hopping spread spektrum) sets can be on that Spektrums DSM (DSSS Direct sequence spread spectrum to be accurate) sets.

DSSS is more likely at an indoor club in an urban setting, eg school sports hall to pick up and have trouble from mobile phone masts, mobile phones, school servers, electronics from houses, and other sources than FHSS is, simply for the fact that FHSS is only going to get interference for 1/500th of a second compared to potentially "just long enough to crash" with DSSS.

So yeah I would say that Futaba is the way to go.

[Mike W]

Both spekky and futaba have had there fair share of problems so to be fair I would stick with what most people at ya club fly or what ya used to ... 7 channel options from both have there merits and there drawbacks .. Personally I use a FF7 and love the thing .. have used a spekky and they are ok as well when ya get used to the way they work ...The problems with the futaba where only the 6exa/hp and the 7 module where effected and also with the spekky brownouts which where sorted as well ...If I was going for a new radio it has to be the 12 FG 2.4 as its soo nice to hold and program ... I had a play with a mates and cant fault the thing .. same as the 9 channel jobby from spekky are the same .. Only one I would stay the hell away from is the 10C .. and yes i have had a play with one and tbh i prefer my 7 over it n e day ...

[steelie600]

12fg are overpriced and too chunky. dx7 for me anyday. If its good enough for 99% of the worlds top 3d pilots its fine for me

[scallybert]

and if you want to talk about a bad system........ how about the Spekrum brown out problems.......

I think Spektrum would claim, with some justification, that the user's dodgy aircraft electrics aren't their fault; and the Quick Connect system was them fixing someone else's problem.

On the other hand, they might want to look at how sensitive their Rxs are to static...

[Made2Fade]

Each to their own i suppose. I was a massive Futaba fan. It puts you off when you start hearing about problems and theres recalls etc I didnt think the brownout issue was entirely Spektrums fault?

Cheers
Lee