Controls and 'Trimming' Double Horse Volitation 9053 RC Helicopter

[zach.ariahking]

Hi,

I am new to using Helicopters, so please bare with me if I am using incorrect terminology or just being a little bit stupid. I have recently bought a Double Horse Volitation 9053 RC Helicopter. I have been out today and had a go flying it, however once off the ground the helicopter begins to move backwards by itself, with no interaction by me at all. I have read the instruction manual and looked at other websites/forums on the internet about this. I have learnt that a helicopter's controls need 'trimming' in order to obtain a stable hover from the helicopter. As can be seen in the photo I moved the Steering Trimmer (forward and backward) down slightly, however no matter how much I move it I still make this problem. I then thought to myself surely the way the helicopter is facing in relation to the remote control could mean I am moving it the wrong way, is this right? I am interested also to know how I should be under taking the process of 'trimming'. Should I do it while in flight or before? Furthermore I would be grateful for some help on what each of the 'trimming' controls do, and any other advice anyone has for me.

I have tried to add a picture of my remote (here) and have added the information that I know already.

Thanks in advance.

Zachariah King

[trillian]

Hi Zach and welcome to the forum. Unfortunately I am not familiar with that helicopter. In general, trims are set by lifting into a hover and if it drifts one way or another you set it down and move the trims to counteract the drift, then takeoff again and see if it is enough trim, too much or etc. If the trim isn't doing anything then it's something else causing the problem (or a malfunction of the transmitter).

[Grumpy]

Trimming is done in flight. In the photo the elevator (forward and backward control) trim is in the full backward position, which will make the heli fly backward. Push the trim forward (up) until you get a stationary hover.

Left and right and forward and back are all as if you were a pilot sitting in the cockpit of the heli... Push stick forward to go forward, back to go back, move stick right to turn to the right etc. Of course when you are flying toward yourself if can get confusing!.. You soon get the hang of it.

be warned, those co-axial (two set of rotors ) helis have very poor control authority. They are really only suitable for indoors use or flying outdoors only in absolute dead calm conditions. In even a slight breeze they dont have enough speed or control authority and will just get blown away down wind.

[zach.ariahking]

Hi Zach and welcome to the forum. Unfortunately I am not familiar with that helicopter. In general, trims are set by lifting into a hover and if it drifts one way or another you set it down and move the trims to counteract the drift, then takeoff again and see if it is enough trim, too much or etc. If the trim isn't doing anything then it's something else causing the problem (or a malfunction of the transmitter).

Thanks Trillian for your help, it is much appreciated. I believe that the issue highlighted by Grumpy below will probably resolve this issue. I am going to try and fly again early tomorrow morning when there is no wind, and I will post here if I get on any better. Thanks again!

[zach.ariahking]

Trimming is done in flight. In the photo the elevator (forward and backward control) trim is in the full backward position, which will make the heli fly backward. Push the trim forward (up) until you get a stationary hover.

Left and right and forward and back are all as if you were a pilot sitting in the cockpit of the heli... Push stick forward to go forward, back to go back, move stick right to turn to the right etc. Of course when you are flying toward yourself if can get confusing!.. You soon get the hang of it.

be warned, those co-axial (two set of rotors ) helis have very poor control authority. They are really only suitable for indoors use or flying outdoors only in absolute dead calm conditions. In even a slight breeze they dont have enough speed or control authority and will just get blown away down wind.

Thanks for your help. As I said to Trillian I am going to fly early morning with the new settings you have suggested, I will let you know how I get on. Thanks for your help!

[zach.ariahking]

Hi, I have been out with my helicopter and the suggestion by Grumpy has a worked, thanks you! I got into a stationary hover, however a slight breeze has now picked up which is pushing it backwards, so I have stopped flying, as I do not want to change the settings for windy conditions! The people on this forum appear to be very nice and helpful. Thanks for all your help!

[myxiplx]

Yeah, trim it indoors or with no breeze, and from that point on just fly it :-)

[tomatwalden]

Hi, I have been out with my helicopter and the suggestion by Grumpy has a worked, thanks you! I got into a stationary hover, however a slight breeze has now picked up which is pushing it backwards, so I have stopped flying, as I do not want to change the settings for windy conditions! The people on this forum appear to be very nice and helpful. Thanks for all your help!

As somebody else mentioned, those co-axials from Double Horse really cannot cope with any wind at all. I think many of us started with these beginner machines, but as you progress, you may want to look at more advanced 4-channel and then 6-channel helis.

An interesting read on RC heli types : Radio Controlled Helicopters - Getting Started
(The double horse - regardless of size, even the really big ones - come under the "toy" category in his classification)