Hi, New HeliAddict looking for start up advice, I have a dream!

[m4inbrain]

Actually i wouldn't say too small outdoors. It won't work in storms, certainly - but when it's calm, i do think it'll be quite alot of fun.

Nano CPx is still alive, barely. Can't fly it on intended settings, i basically dampened everything to 50%, with that i'm able to fly, a bit

It sounds like an angry wasp and is a ton of fun to fly though

[Peteski]

Actually i wouldn't say too small outdoors. It won't work in storms, certainly - but when it's calm, i do think it'll be quite alot of fun.

Nano CPx is still alive, barely. Can't fly it on intended settings, i basically dampened everything to 50%, with that i'm able to fly, a bit

It sounds like an angry wasp and is a ton of fun to fly though

mmm... maybe I'd be better off with a mSRX for my next indoor toy and take a risk on the 200 SRX reliability. I'm buying from a good local shop so at least support should be good.

[m4inbrain]

I was a bit iffed by the threads about reliability too, but it appears that alot of people have no problems at all. Some things should be changed soon-ish, like the main gear for a delrin one, but apart from that, many people are fine.

I'm not saying that the 200srx doesn't have problems, but i think the reputation gets a bit exaggerated through forums - it's not THAT bad.

[tomatwalden]

Thanks for feedback, much appreciated. Sounds like the 120 SR is probably not going to work too well for me then i.e. too big for indoors and yet too small for outdoors! I'd probably be better off with a mSRX or Nano CPX for more advanced indoor heli flying. How's the nCPX going?

Size is nothing to do with flying outdoors. It's the 45-degree flybar, and the highly stable nature it gives to the 120SR that makes it susceptible to wind. But you can absolutely fly it outside, in fact, largely only outdoors. It's just that it can't handle strong winds.

eg. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=133TmqrL-fI

[m4inbrain]

Neither can the 200srx though, just to add. They both are not perfect for windy weather, at least imho.

[Peteski]

Size is nothing to do with flying outdoors. It's the 45-degree flybar, and the highly stable nature it gives to the 120SR that makes it susceptible to wind. But you can absolutely fly it outside, in fact, largely only outdoors. It's just that it can't handle strong winds.

What I meant was that I'm struggling to see the point in having both a 120 SR and 200 SRX if you can't really fly the 120 properly indoors. Maybe a point for the OP to consider too?

[m4inbrain]

120SR is flybarred, the 200srx is not. That is kinda my thought behind it (apart from my girlfriend being able to fly a flybarred heli, flybarless not so much).

They fly pretty different, i will use the 120SR to get tail in/tail out learned, next to Phoenix RC. The 200srx is, even though relatively easy to fly, a bit more of a handful thanks to not being flybarred (no "autoleveling" i suppose you could call it). Even though the beginnermode restricts the cyclic movement, it still can get away from you if you confuse the controls - as the 120sr just hovers if you let go of the controls.

[tomatwalden]

Neither can the 200srx though, just to add. They both are not perfect for windy weather, at least imho.

No fixed pitch heli is really going to like windy weather. To be able to handle wind, you need collective pitch. But, the mSRX and 200SRX are better than most fixed pitch as they don't use 45-degree flybars for stability. Both have "neutral stability (200SRX in expert mode only)", similar to collective pitch and as such are more resilient to it than other FP helis.

But yes, for real agility outside, collective pitch is where it's at. BUT, learning with fixed pitch is easier/cheaper!

[tomatwalden]

What I meant was that I'm struggling to see the point in having both a 120 SR and 200 SRX if you can't really fly the 120 properly indoors. Maybe a point for the OP to consider too?

Personally I would say one fixed pitch heli for learning is enough. 120SR or 200SRX are both OK, but I wouldn't personally invest in both. Learn on one fixed pitch, then move on upwards to collective pitch!

[m4inbrain]

Got my 120SR for 35 bucks, and my girlfriend will be able to use it while i fly with the 200srx.

Definately worth.

edit: £35 in immaculate condition, i want to add.

[Peteski]

Personally I would say one fixed pitch heli for learning is enough. 120SR or 200SRX are both OK, but I wouldn't personally invest in both. Learn on one fixed pitch, then move on upwards to collective pitch!

I agree, that was my point. Given that it's probably too big for house flying, I would now only possibly consider the 120 SR as a cheaper ( and perhaps more reliable?) alternative to the 200 SRX.

[Peteski]

Got my 120SR for 35 bucks, and my girlfriend will be able to use it while i fly with the 200srx.

Can't argue with that! My other half has zero interest in flying, although we have two young daughters who may end up playing with them at some point.

[m4inbrain]

Yeah.. Maybe for a single flyer it wouldn't be the smartest to get the 200 and 120. In that case, i'd go with (as i did) the 200 and a nano cpx, the nano will help learning collective pitch, and with "tamed down" settings it's relatively easy to fly even for beginners.

[Peteski]

The nano CPX is very tempting for indoor winter flying, can't decide between this and the tamer mSRX which I might actually be able to fly Might just bite the bullet on one of these 2 options shortly. But the Nano QX quad is killing it at the moment for indoor fun. I just can't recommend these enough.

[Peteski]

The 200srx is, even though relatively easy to fly, a bit more of a handful thanks to not being flybarred (no "autoleveling" i suppose you could call it). Even though the beginnermode restricts the cyclic movement, it still can get away from you if you confuse the controls - as the 120sr just hovers if you let go of the controls.

That's interesting. I was under the impression that the 200 SRX should also self-level in beginner and intermediate modes. That's how it's described on their website and how the Nano QX works too in Safe mode i.e. it both restricts max pitch and roll angles and self-levels if you let go of the stick. It can still get away from you if you are tanking along as the self-leveling is not instant, but it is most definitely there.