considering the hobby

[Peteski]

Chris - Can't see how to send you a pm? But would like to buy your 4-port charger and psu please. It's just what I need right now.

Edit: PM now sent.

[tomatwalden]

Chris - Can't see how to send you a pm? But would like to buy your 4-port charger and psu please. It's just what I need right now.

Click on Chris' name to the left of his post, select "private message"

[Peteski]

Peteski - ok on the self levelling mode - I was making an assumption (I've not used a nqx, only the mqx but that has no self levelling at all!). I have a hubsan x4 and that sounds similar to the nqx in self levelling mode - it will continue in the direction you put it but it does self level - i.e. it will stop 'leaning' when you centre the stick but continues to travel at the same speed, so in that respect it will be much more lively than a syma. In agility mode it will maintain the angle of flight (when the stick is cantered), thus continue to accelerate in that direction until it hits a finite speed!. That's my way of explaining it anyway. I'd love to play with some bigger quads, but I have so little funds for this hobby I'm having to keep focused on the helis for now!
Just give me a PM if you want the charger.

Yes, I believe the nQX is pretty similar to the Hubsan x4 (there was a good comparison youtube video I found), but with a quicker response in both modes and particularly when in agility mode (I think the nQX ia about half the weight or less). The big difference I find with the nQX over my 4ch co-axial heli (mCX2) is the ability to perform proper banked turns in either mode. Plus it's much much faster and responds much more precisely to stick inputs.

[5hane]

This is one crazy heli. Even with 30% expo its near impossible to keep it in one place. It will hover steadily hands off, but then 4 or 5 seconds later it starts drifting off (usually backwards), so then its a case of fighting to keep it steady again, and trying not to let it get away from me. Occasionally I pluck up the courage to quickly turn it 45deg left or right, at which point it wants to drift right. I'm guessing that means its time to attempt the so called mm-mod.

[tomatwalden]

This is one crazy heli. Even with 30% expo its near impossible to keep it in one place. It will hover steadily hands off, but then 4 or 5 seconds later it starts drifting off (usually backwards), so then its a case of fighting to keep it steady again, and trying not to let it get away from me. Occasionally I pluck up the courage to quickly turn it 45deg left or right, at which point it wants to drift right. I'm guessing that means its time to attempt the so called mm-mod.

Sounds like a normal heli to me! The mm.mod won't change the inherent characteristics which sound right. You have to remember, the msr is a very easy heli to fly because it self stabilises. Normal helis don't do that! The good news is, it doesn't take long to get used to it and soon you'll begin to wonder how you ever cooed with the limitations of the msr.

nobody said it was easy! :-)

[Grumpy]

Sounds like a normal heli to me! )

+1 Sounds perfectly normal to me too. The only thing that would hold a heli stationary in a hover would be a GPS system, or one of those 'Flymentor' gizmos with an 'eye' that looked at the ground and locked on to a fixed point. But of course with those system you arent actually flying the heli, the gizmos are.

As Tom notes.. Nobody said it was easy!

[5hane]

Sounds like a normal heli to me! The mm.mod won't change the inherent characteristics which sound right. You have to remember, the msr is a very easy heli to fly because it self stabilises. Normal helis don't do that! The good news is, it doesn't take long to get used to it and soon you'll begin to wonder how you ever cooed with the limitations of the msr.

nobody said it was easy! :-)

I knew it would be harder to fly than the MSR but not this much. Glad you said that though as I honestly thought it needed fixing.
I should of skipped the MSR and gone straight to the X as it obviously gave me a false sense of thinking I knew how to fly.
All that said im very glad I now have the X, as I can now get a better feel for cp. The sims ok but even with the frustrations I enjoy the physical machine far more.

Cheers guys

[5hane]

Hi all. The MSRX is still alive and im now pretty confident in hovering in each direction.
I now really want to take things to the garden and wondered if anyone could please let me know what the max wind speed should be. I guess it should be absolute zero, but hey this is England

[French Paul]

Good to see your getting on well!
When I started outside with the micros I found 5-10mph wind a great learning tool for making better corrections in all orientations, anything more became very hard work and not really enjoyable.
i found my thumbs learnt quicker by adding a little more challenge and in less than a year I'm a lot further ahead than I'd hoped!
A benefit of living with our weather is the spare time to learn all about how our helis work, build them,set them up properly and become confident that we know what we are doing with them.
after all, the technologies are moving forward fast and there's a lot to learn with soo much on offer!

[5hane]

Good to see your getting on well!
When I started outside with the micros I found 5-10mph wind a great learning tool for making better corrections in all orientations, anything more became very hard work and not really enjoyable.
i found my thumbs learnt quicker by adding a little more challenge and in less than a year I'm a lot further ahead than I'd hoped!
A benefit of living with our weather is the spare time to learn all about how our helis work, build them,set them up properly and become confident that we know what we are doing with them.
after all, the technologies are moving forward fast and there's a lot to learn with soo much on offer!

Hi. That's good to hear. I had a feeling I was going to be told not to bother. Sadly it's raining today so it's back to the kitchen for the time being. Cheers

[tomatwalden]

Hi all. The MSRX is still alive and im now pretty confident in hovering in each direction.
I now really want to take things to the garden and wondered if anyone could please let me know what the max wind speed should be. I guess it should be absolute zero, but hey this is England

Doesn't need to be absolutely still with the mSRX. The older mSR with a flybar was very much like a kite if somebody sneezed nearby, but the flybarless mSRX is better. That said, I would say that a light breeze is the maximum you trying flying the mSRX outdoors. A stiff breeze will pretty much blow it all over the place...

Although even when the wind is a little more blowy, if you can find somewhere sheltered from the wind you might be OK.

EDIT : If you're confident hovering an mSRX in every direction, you should probably move up to collective pitch anyway which will handle wind much better! the mCPX in micro size is the obvious choice, but you may want to consider a 450 sized if you're feeling brave!

[5hane]

Doesn't need to be absolutely still with the mSRX. The older mSR with a flybar was very much like a kite if somebody sneezed nearby, but the flybarless mSRX is better. That said, I would say that a light breeze is the maximum you trying flying the mSRX outdoors. A stiff breeze will pretty much blow it all over the place...

Although even when the wind is a little more blowy, if you can find somewhere sheltered from the wind you might be OK.

EDIT : If you're confident hovering an mSRX in every direction, you should probably move up to collective pitch anyway which will handle wind much better! the mCPX in micro size is the obvious choice, but you may want to consider a 450 sized if you're feeling brave!

I was thinking that. I'll test the water outside with the msrx first then think about the next model.
Is the SRX still a good option?

[tomatwalden]

I was thinking that. I'll test the water outside with the msrx first then think about the next model.
Is the SRX still a good option?

If you mean the 200SRX, then no, not really. Although it's a bit bigger than the mSRX, you won't learn anything more with it.

You'd be better off going collective pitch from where you are - mCPX or 450 sized.

[5hane]

If you mean the 200SRX, then no, not really. Although it's a bit bigger than the mSRX, you won't learn anything more with it.

You'd be better off going collective pitch from where you are - mCPX or 450 sized.

Yes the 200SRX. I can't believe I could be ready for a 450 now, how exciting!
I've been looking at prices of 450's and think I will have to wait a while
I know I shouldn't be worried about cost if I want to stick with the hobby but I have other less exciting monetary commitments right now. However I'll keep an eye on eBay just in case, although I guess that could be risky, not knowing the condition.

[tomatwalden]

If you genuinely are confident hovering the mSRX in every direction, then a 450 should be OK.

Re: Ebay - I really would avoid it for helicopters. Many selling on ebay are people who have bought something like a 450 on a whim, no research and no clue. They then sell up when they've crashed a few times and lost interest.

You're much better off using the "for sale" section on here, or the BMFA classifieds. Or like a say, consider an mCPX for a small/cheap move to collective pitch. Do you have a computerised radio? (DX6i or greater)