considering the hobby

[5hane]

The trick is once spooled up to get the heli off the ground quickly to around a foot or two and you won't notice any more drifting/tipping again,if you do then there's a physical problem to find!
also if your taking off on a hard surface then put the heli on a mouse pad, car Matt or even a towel to stop vibes coming back up the skids and messing around with the gyro!
Both of these tips gave me confidence in my micro helis as I was suffering with the same issues and not getting anywhere.

Hi Paul. Good tip....will def try the mouse mat launch. Hopefully no physical problem yet. I can get the heli int a stable hover, its just getting used to how it acts compared to the MSR... unlike the MSR it wont swing back to the middle, it just keeps going until you bring it back (if that makes sense), and very slight stick movements are all it takes to lose it. I was hoping new settings would have tamed it more noticeably, so i guess its now down to practice.

[tomatwalden]

.. unlike the MSR it wont swing back to the middle, it just keeps going until you bring it back (if that makes sense), and very slight stick movements are all it takes to lose it....

Welcome to flying RC helis! All CP are like that ... this page gives the best analogy in my view.. Are RC Helicopters Hard To Fly?

[Peteski]

Ok on Peteski's comments - the nqx will be invaluable for damage limitation for orientation practice, but I would recommend using the agility mode as much as possible (even in the house and just use your second D/R position for a tamer response). The self levelling modes are nothing like flying a heli (even the msrx) and much closer to flying a 45deg fly bared toy heli (like the syma's etc). If you can fly it with no self levelling (I believe this is only possible in the agility mode) even with reduced throw and plenty of expo you will be much better prepared for the jump to CP (or even a FP like the 200SRx)

Agree completely on flying the nQX in agility mode to closely simulate a CP heli and a sensitive one at that. For me it behaves just like the smaller CP helis do on the sim and makes the 600 size helis feel like slow motion.

However, stability mode is not remotely similar to flying a toy co-axial heli. Even though it limits max pitch/roll angles and obviously self-levels, it's still about 10 times faster and more responsive than my Syma or mCX2 co-axials and if you are thrashing it around the room it won't self-level instantly. Actually it continues to fly on in whatever direction it was pointed rather than recover to a hover. But it does make it a LOT easier to fly flat out in a small room, which is when I use it. I can fly it okay in agility mode now too, but I find it just runs out of space indoors when you start pushing it a bit. But great for skill development and I'm getting faster by the day in agility mode. If I was attempting this sort of learning curve with say a NanoCPX I would have destroyed most of the furniture by now!

I was half joking btw in my post above as I've been banging on to 5hane about how good the nQX is for a while. But honestly it is just the ticket to rapid indoor progress. My mCX2 is nothing like as useful in this respect. It's just way too easy to fly and not very responsive at all.

[5hane]

Welcome to flying RC helis! All CP are like that ... this page gives the best analogy in my view.. Are RC Helicopters Hard To Fly?

The balancing a ball bearing on an upturned bowl analogy certainly rings true

[5hane]

So the MSRX proudly makes the signature, so yes it's day 2 and it's still in one piece
Still trying to get my head around the tx, but i changed the expo from 15 to 25% and that has certainly helped a little.
This thing eats batteries so I am now experiencing the benefits of the tx's timer function, and im glad I have now ditched the AA's for the eflite mains cable as charging the lipos using batteries was makes no financial sense at all, although would be an obvious benefit out in the field I guess.

[Chrisrw]

I use the miniaviation 220mah - they give a much better run time.
Did u have the 4 port charger with the msr? If so use that. The single cell charger with the msrx is very crude.
I use the 4 port e-flight charger to charge all my batts for the mcpx, msrx, nano cpx and even my little hubsan x4 (with adaptor cable).
Have fun with the msrx, its very still here today - if you have a nice open space (with long grass) you might get away with a gentle outdoor flight too...

[Peteski]

I have now ditched the AA's for the eflite mains cable as charging the lipos using batteries was makes no financial sense at all, although would be an obvious benefit out in the field I guess.

That's a good idea, I need to get an adapter too. I've also got one of those little usb dongle chargers, which has been pretty handy.

[Peteski]

Did u have the 4 port charger with the msr? If so use that. The single cell charger with the msrx is very crude.

That's almost a good excuse to buy an msr. Might have to do the man-maths on it! I wonder if the msrx (bnf version) comes with that charger too? Edit: Scrap that idea, it doesn't even come with a battery!

[5hane]

I use the miniaviation 220mah - they give a much better run time.
Did u have the 4 port charger with the msr? If so use that. The single cell charger with the msrx is very crude.
I use the 4 port e-flight charger to charge all my batts for the mcpx, msrx, nano cpx and even my little hubsan x4 (with adaptor cable).
Have fun with the msrx, its very still here today - if you have a nice open space (with long grass) you might get away with a gentle outdoor flight too...

Not realising that RTF MSR's don't all came with the 4 cell charger, I was disappointed when I was confronted with the single cell charger.
Eventually i decided to order the mains lead for it (eBay £5), which was obviously cheaper than buying a 4 cell charger. I also read that the 4 cell charger only goes up to 160mah (less than the single cell goes up to). I have no issues with only having the one cell to be honest.
I would loved to have taken it out today but sadly no time. Have to wait until Monday now

[Chrisrw]

I have a spare 4 port charger (and psu that can be used with this or the one cell charger).
They are good for any single cell (doesn't matter if its 150mah or 500mah) it charges as 300mah (I think) so just takes longer for bigger cells.
I was going to put it on ebay but if anyone needs one its your's for £15.

[Chrisrw]

Be carefull with the dongle chargers (most, not all though) dont use an intelligent charging circuit and can either under or over charge lipos or even damage them.
Check the final charge voltage with them, generally they undercharge to avoide the lipos exploding (as they cant perform reduced current charge at the end).
I played with some with my first few 'toy' helis and one of the chargers just keeps charging indefinately - not good!

[Peteski]

Chris, if 5hane doesn't want it I'd be very interested in buying your charger and psu.

[stephenk]

get yourself a mcpx good machine and very forgiving

[Chrisrw]

Peteski - ok on the self levelling mode - I was making an assumption (I've not used a nqx, only the mqx but that has no self levelling at all!). I have a hubsan x4 and that sounds similar to the nqx in self levelling mode - it will continue in the direction you put it but it does self level - i.e. it will stop 'leaning' when you centre the stick but continues to travel at the same speed, so in that respect it will be much more lively than a syma. In agility mode it will maintain the angle of flight (when the stick is cantered), thus continue to accelerate in that direction until it hits a finite speed!. That's my way of explaining it anyway. I'd love to play with some bigger quads, but I have so little funds for this hobby I'm having to keep focused on the helis for now!
Just give me a PM if you want the charger.

[5hane]

I have a spare 4 port charger (and psu that can be used with this or the one cell charger).
They are good for any single cell (doesn't matter if its 150mah or 500mah) it charges as 300mah (I think) so just takes longer for bigger cells.
I was going to put it on ebay but if anyone needs one its your's for £15.

Sounds tempting, ty. I think that now I have the power supply, ill stick with my current setup.