lama still not right

[NEWBIERON]

hi mazefade.... boggy. and all after everything tried heli will not stay straight . still turning tail right with full anti on the prop pot and full trim. HELP PLEASE... this is a ne lama v4. CHEERS ALL ......... RON

[Made2Fade]

Have you actually tried turning the pot the other way mate and not just all the way up? Also u must recycle the power after you make the adjustment. Boggy will know better but im sure theres a test you can do were you hold full right stick and adjust the pot. As i said before though mate you will never get this spot on... i get tail drift on my bell47g which is basically the same heli. It will drift faster as the pack wears down. I just forget about it and hold the tail myself and just fly it. I tried allsorts with mine and theres no cure to be honest. You should be able to get it so it only drifts slowly though.
Lee

[NEWBIERON]

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thanks lea. have not triad it the other way ,will do ,as you say it might not go straight as yours, but i have to give it full right trim and hold rudder stick to the right witch loses all up power. cheers ron

[rombonie]

Yep they do, best to get it about right with full pack and as Lee has said correct as you go, I do tend to adjust mine as the pack drops.

Just a thought you say it still turning with the prop pot fully adjusted one way, is that correct? tail right as you put it or better knows as nose left. I suggest you now adjust the pot the other way, with it fully adjusted the other way, disconnect the battery and reconnect, allow it to set, now try again, did it turn nose right(tail left)?

let me know

[Made2Fade]

Yip just go the other way on the pro pot... your probably giving it too much and have gone past the point where both props are turning at the same rate. The tinyest adjustments make a diffrence on the pot and dont forget to disconnect the battery after you have made the adjustment. Then when you reconnect the battery give it time to initialise properly and hover it again. If its not enough then just repeat the sequence. Its just trial and error. Centre the trim in the middle now so you can see the adjustments though.
Lee

[NEWBIERON]

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hi mate will try this tommorow. and let you know. also sometimes one set of rotors do not turn untill 3/4 throttle ? thanks for help ....ron

[Made2Fade]

Yip and as Rombonie said... do it on a full pack then youll not see the drifting effect i was talking about because it happens as the voltage of the pack decreases. Like i say they never hold perfect but you can get a happy medium. Sounds about right what u are describing with the rotors... this will happen if u have the pot turned all the way up. Ill see if i can get my girlfriend to take a little clip of me hovering mine in the front room tomorrow for you and ill try and show you the drift im talking about and what i call acceptable. Hopefully it will shine some light on the situation for you.
Oh and its Lee not Lea... thats a bloody girls name lol
Cheers
Lee

[rombonie]

Good point about the trim

[NEWBIERON]

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cheers lee will try this ,cant wait to fly it .understand you have to get a certain height for good trim ?...cheers ron.

[Made2Fade]

These helis are loads stable in the air and not very stable at all on the ground. Its called ground effect and you need to get out of it quickly in order to get the steady hover that you'll be looking for. So the best way to handle it is just go for it and get it at least 5/6ft off the deck. You'll be plesantly surprised how stable these are in the air. And all you have to think to yourself is ' as long as i have got the tail pointing at me then all the controls are the right way round '. And basically just concentrate mostly of controlling the throttle for your height and the rudder to keep the tail in. This will be your comfort zone and the basis is the same even when you move on to a bigger nitro/electric helicopter. If you have a big enough room to hover in you'll find these things are pretty hard to crash as there so stable. Its only when you start trying nose in and side on that you'll find it harder.
Lee

[NEWBIERON]

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cheers LEE sorry about that mate . will try all this morrow. thanks for all your help. will let you know outcome. p.s are you some of the leicestershire people that get to maplethorpe links. been there. lol. cheers ron....

[Made2Fade]

Well im nowhere near leicestershire mate so not me lol
Will try and sort that little video for ya
Lee

[Made2Fade]

Some little videos of the drift on my Bell47g Co-axial and what you should roughly see upon rudder input. If your helicopter blades look the same as mine and your not putting in the rudder input then it means you have got the mixer pro pot adjusted wrongly. Ignore my rough Geordie voice lol It sounds horrible when you play yourself back. As you can see i dont even bother with the canopy on now. I have just fitted the flycam one v2 to it so will shoot some onboard camera footage later.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygWnWOh3sWs[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kf1t2Qry-s[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoD4J9IY6og[/ame]

Dont know if they'll help as its all pretty straight forward and im stating the obvious really. But its just to show you that because you'll get drift when the voltage of the battery drops anyways that not to go mental trying to get it perfect. You'll never get it like that. If its an Esky Lama you have then there renowned for it. Anyways... you can get it so it holds for say the first 2 minutes of the pack being fully charged then it will drift. Or you can tune it halfway through a pack so it will drift the beginning and end of the pack but hold better in the middle. I just forget about it and just go fly to be honest.
Cheers
Lee

[NEWBIERON]

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love the videos LEE love the accent too. great flying mate can only dream to do anything like that.hhave been down to the sons in essex to help with decorating today, will try to get a bit higher, one thing that bothers me is in your video you go ful rudder left or right then power to show blades spinning or not , on mine you do not have to give rudder just power but only one spins untill poer is high, then i lift of lama drifts tail left with full rudder trim .push rudder stick to right and drops quick. cheers mate these videos have realy helped. say thanks to video producer....ron