So sensitive on the controls?

[Bamboo]

one month in and i am amazed how sensitive these controls are. I have had it set up on beginners settings but even so it's amazing. What styles do others use is it fingers on top rotating or do you slide them down the shaft. Any modifications you have tried to make it easier. Practice makes perfect i know but perhaps there is a mod that makes it easier.

My other issue is training gear as twice now i have landed quite gently and yet the gear seems to spring and on one occasion took it off balance and the blade took the boom out and i am convinced without that bounce it would not have happened but then again?!

[PorscheBoy]

What are you flying? Do you have enough "Expo" on your Tx stick movement. But yes they are all sensitive to clumsy or large stick inputs.

You need to land pretty heavy and/or not flat to create a boom strike if all else is set up correctly. The "give" in your landing gear might save you for moderate landings.

Need more info to help you better..

[james_2k]

Ok you know you have a messed up mind when 'fingers sliding down the shaft' doesn't make me think of a transmitter. Haha

[highlightshadow]

Please let us know what heli + radio you have.... makes it easier for us to know what we can suggest to help.

Regarding Transmitter sticks .... basically you're a thumber or pincher (sometimes one hand of each).... its entirely personal preference as to whether you use top of your thumbs or thumb and finger to pinch.
Switching from one method to another takes a while .... since you're switching muscle memory ..... you will get your head into the space eventually but give it time

[Bamboo]

I have used various models but have stuck to the blade 450x at present with DX7

[PorscheBoy]

OK. How much expo do you have on your stick settings currently in your DX7.

450 size helis are a bit twitchy compared to their bigger brothers, but not overly twitchy. Initially try to fly when there is less breeze.

Not sure with Blade Heli's, but can you dial in "softer" settings into the FBL unit (I'm sure someone will chime in with help on this).

Sometimes practice/beginners landing gear can lead to more issues than they solve. If you can hover then land flat and lightly, you might want to try without the training rig, but only you know if its that time yet.

[Bamboo]

Pitch 85%, DR to 60% (20% exp) and the TC at 60%... 70% tail throw with 15% expo making the tail a tad slower

[PorscheBoy]

I would set your expo's to 35 except the tail set to maybe 25 and see how it feels

[helijohn]

It's a real problem here cos I am very into gaming and get through controllers like you wouldn't believe so the RC Tx stands no chance. If I were to use thumbs I'd crush the gimbals no sweat.

[Alfie]

In all my years i have never needed expo!, ive set my boys up on Trex 450's pro fbl's, without expo!!

Im not familar with the 450x, but i wonder if youre H/S is set to high?

I taught my two on a reduced headspeed without any tx interference and they were fine!

col

[Bamboo]

I have thought about this. I have the same set up on the sim. Although i expect the drift to the left on take off it goes forward quite a bit. This makes it a bit difficult to learn as instead of hovering from side to side at the same time you are stopping from it moving forward. To many of you thats not a problem obviously but to learn the two movements together is challenging .

Pro FBL's ?. Can you elaborate a bit please

[Alfie]

I have thought about this. I have the same set up on the sim. Although i expect the drift to the left on take off it goes forward quite a bit. This makes it a bit difficult to learn as instead of hovering from side to side at the same time you are stopping from it moving forward. To many of you thats not a problem obviously but to learn the two movements together is challenging .

Pro FBL's ?. Can you elaborate a bit please

I am merely referring to a specific brand 'i.e Align 450 pro (fbl)' fbl meaning flybarless!

My eldest boy 'now 11' i taught on t450 pro fb, and you could slowly increase headpseed and fettle the cyclics on takeoff, !

When i got to my youngest 'now 8', everything i had was fbl (flybarless), and i taught him, to spool up half stick first, then pop it straight up into a hover approx 12" off the deck without touching cyclics,..

If you're model is setup correctly holding a hover @ approx 12-18" (300-450mm) of the deck 'from popping it in the air', doesn't require much correction!!

(Assuming it's set up correctly(trust me))

col

[kenny d]

The 450x comes with the ar7200bx , in parameters menu (B, control behaviour)you can change how fast the heli reacts
you could try normal first , then sport , it's easy to change between them and may be your answer , regards kenny d

[PorscheBoy]

In all my years i have never needed expo!, ive set my boys up on Trex 450's pro fbl's, without expo!!

Im not familar with the 450x, but i wonder if youre H/S is set to high?

I taught my two on a reduced headspeed without any tx interference and they were fine!

col

Lucky we're all the same then!
That's it everyone, remove all your expo it's quite obviously not req'd for anyone, regardless of ability. Doesn't matter that maybe it could be some means of enabling a newbie to learn his heli and then back off the expo as he/she improves....... Nah!
I'm outa here.
Hopefully others will be able to help you Bamboo and I wish you luck mate.

[tomatwalden]

Ok, here's my tuppence. Experiment with expo ... I think I found about 25% to be about right for me on the 450x. Personally however, I found DR better at 100%. Otherwise you're just limiting how much throw / control you have.

left drift is normal as you've discovered, but forward movement isn't. You've either got the heli nose heavy (unlikely with a BNF) or the swash isn't level. Do you have anybody nearby who can test fly it for you to make sure it's flying as it should.

Regarding training gear, I think they're a mental crutch, but practically they cause more problems than they solve.

As as for thumb on sticks or pinching, most I know are thumb people, but it's whatever works for you ...