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    Ok, so i'm a Mode 1 pilot, stuck in that way from racing cars as a kid and flying 2ch slope soarers with my dad 25 years ago. My radio was my Dad's hand me down (Which once cost him a months wages!).

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    The ugly and not very ergonomically designed Futaba M Series 2. This was the radio responsible for moulding me in to a mode 1 pilot forever! Now for plank flying, I never saw this as a bad thing at all as it kept your two primary functions separate and allowed better control during aerobatics. The tail is also on one stick, which means that when flying 3D planks, there is often a stirring motion that is often associated with piro flips (my current nemesis!) .

    I started flying helis 3 years ago and as a mode 1 pilot, I often get stick and usually asked where my disabled badges are on my helis! Am I really at a loss being on mode 1? Or is it just like being left vs right handed?I know that these days the trend in this country is just most people are on mode 2, however I do know that in other parts of the world mode 1 is more popular.

    Last year, I bumped in to Moonmanflyer and found out about the sw grass roots event and entered. With just a Trex 500, I entered and came out of it a better pilot, no question. It gave me focus and discipline in learning new moves. It taught me to have goals and sim practice routines which sent me on a steep learning curve that continued throughout the rest of last year and just makes you want to fly more and more. So for any other novice heli fliers out thinking about having a go at grass roots, seriously just do it!

    At the beginning of last year, I could do the odd loop and roll, just about fly a heli backwards and inverted forward flight. Having flown planks for 25 years, I was flying my helis like a plank almost and almost all in forward flight. After the grass roots event, I soon learnt my weaknesses (there were lots) and concentrated and what I learnt to be important. I wanted to be able to have the helicopter in any attitude and be able to bail out.

    Last year I concentrated on nailing my forward and backwards flight both upright and inverted. I think I'm pretty much there in that respect but have discovered that I'm a little handed and need to force myself to do everything I can do, the other way this year (easy said than done as I'm sure most will agree, it's easy to drift straight back in to your comfort zone). I can now do funnels, pirouetting circuits upside down and the right way up, but again only one direction for most things. I've discovered I can do rolling circuits from my plank flying. Four point tic tocks are nearly there, but rough around the edges. But the one move i've always, always wanted to be able to do it decent piro flips and I just can't!

    Piro flips seem so much easier in mode 2, or can any mode 1 pilots out there tell me otherwise? I can happily do half piro flips and almost keep the heli stationary. Full and 1 and half piro flips just wander around the sky and It often becomes more like avoiding the ground than flying! Is this a mode 1 thing or is it just me?

    With only knowing one other mode 1 heli pilot near me (Geek), I'm hoping to find some others out there that can also help me and others further progress our flying this year

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    I fly mode 2, but our clubs best pilot is also, like you disabled..... and flys mode 1.... so it would seem that all those things you should be able to do just as well as us that have the sticks the right way round....

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    • #3
      Geek (Paul) can do pretty good pyros Chris, so it's worth a word with him.
      Paul said to me yesterday after I maiden my E700, 'I wish I could fly mode 2' so I guess that's the only thing you missing out!

      I seeing your flying Chris and for a "disable pilot" you doing bloody great mate!



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      • #4
        Back in 1977/78 when I taught myself to fly Planks, I flew Mode 2. Later I converted to Mode 1 due to it being more logical for F3A Aerobatic comps. When I started Heli flying 3 years ago, most of the cheapo helis came with Mode 2 Transmitters, so I stuck with that for Helis, but still fly Mode 1 for planks, although I can also fly them in Mode 2.
        My son tried Mode 2 for Helis, but decided to stick with Mode 1 for Helis and Planks.
        Been there and done that, but never stop learning.
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        • #5
          I can't help you mate you are beyond that but I enjoyed reading that ....great post
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          • #6
            Isn't Duncan Bossion a mode-1 pilot ?? Or am I making that up completely ???
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            • #7
              Originally posted by jimmyhorns View Post
              I fly mode 2, but our clubs best pilot is also, like you disabled..... and flys mode 1.... so it would seem that all those things you should be able to do just as well as us that have the sticks the right way round....

              Yep, i was there at the 3D champs. Matty is a bloody good mode 1 example. He was also a judge at the grass roots event and had to apologise to him and the others for nearly crashing in to the judges in an early backwards loop attempt. Oops!

              Cheers Panos, too. I'm guessing the E700 is a bit good then

              As for flying mode 2, I can fly a plank on mode 2, but I have to forget the throttle and single stick. I had a go on the club trainer a few years back and was doing fine until it was pass the transmitter round for touch and goes. On my approach, I went to throttle up to bail out and nearly did a did a bunt! Mode 1 is a permant feature for me

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              • #8
                Originally posted by tomatwalden View Post
                Isn't Duncan Bossion a mode-1 pilot ?? Or am I making that up completely ???
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                • #9
                  That's rediculous, he's on another planet! Mode 1 yeaaaah!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dorlingus View Post
                    As for flying mode 2, I can fly a plank on mode 2, but I have to forget the throttle and single stick. I had a go on the club trainer a few years back and was doing fine until it was pass the transmitter round for touch and goes. On my approach, I went to throttle up to bail out and nearly did a did a bunt! Mode 1 is a permant feature for me
                    I found the Mode 2 more logical because the main control of Ail/Ele are on the same stick. Just holding a touch of rudder and enough throttle to fly. The rest all falls into place.
                    Been there and done that, but never stop learning.
                    Now too many Helis to mention?

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                    • #11
                      We could name all the mode 1 pilot's really fast

                      Matt lodge
                      Tim proctor
                      Jamie cole
                      Timo Curlis

                      Your pushing really hard Jeb your get them soon I can tell
                      Cheers Paul

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                      • #12
                        missed one
                        isn't bob j a mode 1 heli god
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Geek View Post
                          We could name all the mode 1 pilot's really fast

                          Matt lodge
                          Tim proctor
                          Jamie cole
                          Timo Curlis

                          Your pushing really hard Jeb your get them soon I can tell
                          Mode 2 seems to be a European and American thing Paul.

                          All the Far Eastern countries plus Australians fly mode 1 as does most of France.

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                          • #14
                            are piro moves harder though tim being mode 1, but i suppose other moves could be easier?
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Ross Northcott View Post
                              are piro moves harder though tim being mode 1, but i suppose other moves could be easier?
                              One handed aileron tick tocks are easy
                              Cheers Paul

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