raptor dampeners

[chappers]

hi, any one using the CARBONXTREME DAMPENERS on their raptor? ive just fitted a set, ready to try tomorrow, but at 20 a pair they had better be good???!!!

[headcase]

I've been using the CX dampers on my R50 for a few months now and really like them. I am using a Quick UK head block, SAB blades and the TT green paddles and running a idle up head speed of 1900. The roll and flip rate is much improved on my previous setup of the TT blue dampers and V-Blade paddles.

One thing i have found with the CX dampers is that they seem to work better with heavier main blades, when i tried a set of NHP razors which are lighter than the SAB's the model had a very "jerky" looking apperance if you were a bit heavy handed on the sticks and it was easy to provoke "nodding". This does not occur when using the SAB's

Best regards

Brian

[chappers]

one thing puzzles me, they say for the the original plastic head block?

[headcase]

I used mine originally in the plastic headblock, then changed to a metal one, fits just the same. No problem. Still had the slight wobble problem when using the plastic headblock and NHP blades that i also have when now using the metal block.

I understand there is 2 versions available, one for plastic & one for metal head blocks although i think it is the plastic version (005 last 3 serial no) that is sold in this country, not sure if the other one (006) is.
I think the only difference between the 2 versions is the 006 set is
made to be a slightly looser fit in metal headblocks.

Regards

Brian

[chappers]

flew today maybe slightly more responsive but changed to "V" paddles at same time so who knows? as i never had a wobble on the head i cant comment

[headcase]

What was your previous setup if it was only "maybe slightly only more responsive".

In my opinion V paddles are overrated, the 4 different sets i have used on various models were not as good as for example SAB, Hirobo, or even MA paddles. Also the set i had for my Raptor 50 were poor quality, when one was fitted to the flybar it was angle about 75% instead of 90%.

For the raptor 50 i don't think you can beat the "yucky" green TT paddles! but i'am sure you'll contradict me!

Regards

Brian

[chappers]

why should i? how can i? ive never tried the green paddles, only the stock white ones that came with the kit and of course now the "V" set. my set up is generally quite tame even though i fly full blown 3D. i fitted the carbonxtreme dampeners due to my concern over possible boom strikes during metronomes etc..
i agree with you regarding other paddles i like the hirobo 30 paddles fitting them in the past to other 30 models, in fact the paddles on my henseleit 3D look very similar in size and weight! tried SABs on my futuras which i really liked, whilst the MA paddles on my fury extreme are awesome.
i do like to experiment with different paddles and blade combinations, but generally find for general all round capability the various manufactuers do get it right?

[headcase]

Ok, if you have not tried the green paddles, then trust me, they are streets ahead of the TT white paddles and certainly better than V paddles!

Please don't feel i am getting at you in any way, i am really only trying to be helpfull, i am sensing a bit of attitude from your previous reply.

I will keep my opinions to myself where you are concerned in the future as you clearly like to have the last word.

As allways

Regards

Brian

[chappers]

not at all, please feel free to comment on anything i say or do. an order has already been placed for a set of "greenies"! so ill let you know!
what i have found over the years is "set up" is a purely personel thing and what suits one may not suit another, so does that mean there is no such thing as the perfect set up?

[chappers]

to follow on about paddles, i found the stock white paddles (50 SE) tended to make the model zoom upwards in fast flight, whilst the "V"s (and ive only had 3 flights with them so could change opinion) tend to make the model "stick" in fast forward flight requiring more back stick than usual to change attitude? making the flight look jerky?
any one any opinions?

[Raptorite]

I went through a stage of playing with different paddle and blade combinations on my raptors some time ago. At the time the options with regards to paddles particularly was somewhat limited. I found the stock TT Black ones too big, bulky and slow on the cyclic response. I then decided to give the super light K&S ones a go. Whilst the cyclic response was much better, the model was very "Pitchy" in forward flight and nothing short of a real handful in moderate to strong winds. Following those I tried a set of the MA white 3d paddles. Being slightly more bulky than the K&S ones but not quite so big as the stock TT ones, they worked really well, maintaining the crisp cyclic responses withouth sacrificing much in the way of stability. I have been flying these on all my raptors from the 30 right up to the 90 ever since.

In terms of blades, at first after moving on from the stock woodies I went to Modelsport Sports baldes, but soon out grew these being that they are only semi symetricals. I then moved on to the MS 3d blades which I found to be a good blade with reasonable stability and good cyclic responses. The only reservation I had with them was their not being that good in auto's. After them I tried a set of NHP Razors, which again I found to be very aerobatic and lively, but not quite as stable as the MS and certainly not that good for auto's as they were a bit too light for that. By pure chance and the fact that they were in stock at the shop, I tried a set of SAB blades, these were the slightly heavier 145g 600mm 50 size blades. I have to say they made a hell of a difference, being as stable as you want in the hover, reasonably lively in cyclic response, but where they scored particularly well over the other blades was in auto's. Again I have stuck with SAB blades ever since on all size models from 30 to 90.

I've no doubt things have changed a bit since then, which was about 2 years ago, but for my money I don't think you can go wrong with the MA paddles at around 8.50 per set and 50 size SAB 600's at around 50 per set.

Cheers,

Pete.

[chappers]

well got my green paddles so ill give them a go and see how thet suit my style. so what do you think RAPTORITE is setup a personal thing?

[Raptorite]

Hi Kieth,

Yes, I believe to a certain degree it is. The setup an individual chooses is determined by their own personal flying style and tastes in terms of model performance. Some will like the controls to feel nice and sedate for normal sport flying, whilst others prefer a more responsive feel for 3d. These days there are any amount of different paddle and blade combinations, and some other odds and ends too, like flybar weights and the later addition to many models and after market rotor head components having multiple choices of mixing and throw options.

Personally, I like my models to be as lively as I can realistically get them withouth significantly sacrificing stability in the hover and more importantly in wind. My ideal combination would be stability something approaching FAI standard with the aerobatic performance of hard core 3d. I have I believe achieved this as far as I can using a combination of middle of the road mechanical setup and a few tweaks here and there in the transmitter programming.

Cheers,

Pete.

[headcase]

Chappers

Have been away for a few days and have just read my last post which was a reply to you, and am shocked. I feel such a d**khead and must come across as someone with "issues"

I am a very easygoing person and can only appologise if any offence was taken, it was certainly not intended ops:

In my defence, i will never post again on forums after a skinfull of Teachers!

Best wishes

Brian

[chappers]

forget it. my only criticism of you is you never offered to share the drink!