Novice requires much appreciated assistance

[Zeus]

I have recently purchased a HK 450 Helicopter used but stated as in new condition with upgraded alloy main rotor and tail rotor , I feel a little duped as I purchased it believing that when I rec the item I could begin to practice using the anti crash kit supplied, as the person I purchased it from stated that it flies and has only been used a few times it came with charger batteries canopy etc, however no Controller I asked where the controller was to be told it did not come with one!!! a long story but a play on words and misrepresentation by the other party....Any way I now have this helicopter and cannot attempt to use at this time.. Having looked on it there is connected a Spektrum DSM2 RECIEVER. I have put a charged battery on and there was movement on rotor head so at least that's something I HOPE, I would like to know if I purchased a 2.4ghz Spectrum dx6i mode 2 controller would I be able to use the helicopter as it has the Spektrum 6 channel receiver? will the controller pick up the receiver once turned on or is there anything else I am required to do. I am obviously very disappointed at present and would like to attempt to learn and continue with this hobby any positive assistance regarding my dilemma would be very much appreciated

[SaneAdam]

Yes, if you buy a Dx6i then you can bind it to your receiver with a simple process. But you would need to do a set up on the helicopter and dx6, if you are a novice, i would get help with this.

You sound surprised that there was no controller with the kit? To be fair, you should have double checked everything that was included in the deal so you knew what you were getting for a start....

Helicopters like this do not come with a controller. They are bought in kit form by people that usually have all the radio gear ready to go. UNLESS... it clearly stated it did include the controller in the ad.

[tomatwalden]

As above, yes the DSM2 receiver will bind fine to a Spektrum DX6i controller. To be honest, this is kind of normal for helicopters of this class. Most second hand ones assume you have your own controller. Bear in mind that one transmitter can be used for many helicopters, so most people will buy/sell helicopters but keep their transmitter.

Learning to fly helis isn't simple however, and there is no such thing as an "anti-crash kit". You can have training skids, which help to a greater or lesser degree in the early stages, but they are a LONG WAY from being anti-crash!

Take a look at the flight school vids on : How To Fly RC Helicopters
Consider a simulator ... eg. Phoenix model flight simulation :: Welcome
Or flying lessons ... eg. Phoenix Model Aviation Ltd

You'll also get lots of advice on here as you progress!

Best of luck.

[iceuk]

Setting up is difficult if there is no to help you, flying is even more difficult. Get yourself a dx6i, watfh lots of videos on how to set heli up,
If ur still stuck i can try and help over skype.


Good luck mate

[Zeus]

Hi many thanks for you reply, it was a play on words being a novice I asked if it had a receiver to fly he just said yes, and I am sure the person knew what I meant meaning the actual controller, as I stated I am a complete novice and in the advert it stated it has been flown and that he no longer uses it and did not state that it did not come with it as I would not of proceeded with the purchase..so lesson learnt about genuine and honest persons! Anyway will battle on and hopefully get sorted thanks again Dave

[Zeus]

Hi many thanks I knew that it is extremely difficult to fly RC Helicopters but that's the challenge so looking forward to the process I will be getting a controller in the next few days and may take you up on the Skype to assist set up in the mean time will look at vids on you tube thanks Dave

[Zeus]

Thanks all, every bit of advice taken on board and helps much appreciated

[waveydavey]

Welcome to the forum Dave, you don't need to battle on my friend. You've come to the right place for help, advice and **** taking. Don't proceed to go it alone, you can do it many do but it's so much easier using the advice on here and it'll be cheaper in the long run

[tomatwalden]

Hi many thanks for you reply, it was a play on words being a novice I asked if it had a receiver to fly he just said yes, and I am sure the person knew what I meant meaning the actual controller, as I stated I am a complete novice and in the advert it stated it has been flown and that he no longer uses it and did not state that it did not come with it as I would not of proceeded with the purchase..so lesson learnt about genuine and honest persons! Anyway will battle on and hopefully get sorted thanks again Dave

To be fair, if somebody asked me the same question "does it have a receiver?" ... I would have answered yes too. It does indeed have a receiver! You meant transmitter of course, but his misunderstanding isn't unbelievable as the question you asked is entirely reasonable too.

[iceuk]

Hi many thanks I knew that it is extremely difficult to fly RC Helicopters but that's the challenge so looking forward to the process I will be getting a controller in the next few days and may take you up on the Skype to assist set up in the mean time will look at vids on you tube thanks Dave

Sure NP, try and do what you can do and if you can't get your head around it give me a shout, often just having someone you can ask if something is correct is sufficient, camera would be good to with skype, not that I want to see you mug but your heli (-:

[jimmyhorns]

Hi many thanks for you reply, it was a play on words being a novice I asked if it had a receiver to fly he just said yes, and I am sure the person knew what I meant meaning the actual controller, as I stated I am a complete novice and in the advert it stated it has been flown and that he no longer uses it and did not state that it did not come with it as I would not of proceeded with the purchase..so lesson learnt about genuine and honest persons! Anyway will battle on and hopefully get sorted thanks again Dave

Welcome to the forum.

As others have indirectly stated you made the mistake about the transmitter im afraid. If I was buying a helicopter like that, I wouldnt expect it to come with a transmitter. You asked whether it had a receiver and the answer was yes - completely truthful, and not a play on words.

I have several helicopters, and many more receivers for my rc planes, but only one transmitter, and this is pretty normal behaviour. A 450 class helicopter is no longer the toy in a box in 'gadgetland', but a model, and a buyer should have different expectations.

Sorry, but in this instance it was your mistake, rather than the seller not being genuine and honest. If you had asked if it came with a transmitter and were told it did, then it would of course be a different story.

[1chris]

You should of researched what is required to fly model helicopters prior to purchase....... you seemed to be a bit "wanting" as to what to expect!!!

[SaneAdam]

.so lesson learnt about genuine and honest persons! Anyway will battle on and hopefully get sorted thanks again Dave

Not in this case i'm afraid. His answer to your question was totally correct and honest. It is unfortunately your misunderstanding of the terms and the equipment. If someone asked me if it had a receiver i would say yes..... I would at no point think to have to point out the difference between a transmitter and a receiver to the purchaser. They are 2 different things obviously.

You can be frustrated sure.... but not with the honesty or integrity of the seller. It is more like... lesson learnt for not knowing the difference between a transmitter and a receiver i would say lol

[electricsceadu]

it may be a good idea to get a dx6 with a simulator and then you can practise on the simulator before you attempt to fly the model
if you don't have somebody local to help you it will be worth looking up the local club for help in setting the model up

[cjcj1949]

Try reading this for a start.

http://www.spektrumrc.com/ProdInfo/F...anual_DX6i.pdf

A smaller indoor heli like an msr might be an idea. A 450 is capable of doing a lot of damage to you and itself.