Paddles differences

[Jamin_00]

I have a set of 50 size V paddles and they are slightly larger in size than the Align ones.

Would this make them faster or slower than the Align paddles.

[mattie-lodge]

Ben,

This depends on what align paddles you have. Are the front edges sharp or rounded? They bought out two styles.

If you have the sharp paddles the V's will feel smooth and less agresive. If they are the more rounded ones you may not feel difference.

[coolice]

Hey.

Well V's are normally very lite from memory and hence would then be quite quick on cyclics, however it's not just weight but shape and leading and trailing edge shape.
Sharp pointy leading & trailing edges will give much more aggressive cyclics than blunter ones.

The increased size would could also make them more powerful and mounting hole position also influences flight feel. A forward centre of gravity makes a paddle softer and less lively, going the other way a rearward one increases their sensitivity.

Out of interest what are the leading and trailing edges like compared to the Aligns?
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[Jamin_00]

The one balancing on my thumb is the V

It's the basic same shape but more slim and sleek looking

[Jamin_00]

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[oneandonlyian]

Interesting stuff this I use the kbdd paddles on my 600 im gonna try moving them forward and rearward just to see and feel if there is a difference. Before these i was using the same black align carbons and in all fairness i didnt feel any change when i swapped also I didnt know what i was looking for I hope I and my flying have improved enough to notice this time around. Will let you know.

Ian

[Jamin_00]

I had the original compass ones on before the Aligns and the compass ones were much quicker but the align ones seem to make the heli track better. I'm hoping the V give quicker response but still track as well.

I think I could just have had the compass ones tilted slightly forward as at fff it would want to go nose down.

Will have to play at the field and see how differently they are

[mattie-lodge]

Hard to tell on that photo, but it looks like you have the sharp ones.

[coolice]

Interesting stuff this I use the kbdd paddles on my 600 im gonna try moving them forward and rearward just to see and feel if there is a difference. Before these i was using the same black align carbons and in all fairness i didnt feel any change when i swapped also I didnt know what i was looking for I hope I and my flying have improved enough to notice this time around. Will let you know.

Ian

Hey Ian.

K&S years ago used to sell a range of plastic paddles which had two mounting holes, one for aggressive cyclic response (the rearward one) and another for a more balanced feel (forward hole).
They worked well on my TSK Five Star (now I am showing my age mentioning this model) and were bright pink from memory

If you can experiment I would say give it a go, just be wary of the change in feel but otherwise I'd be interested to know what you find on a model of todays 3D standard.
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[coolice]

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Hey.

Going from mounting hole positioning against the Align paddles I'd say the V's will be a little bit softer and less aggressive, as the mounting hole is further forward where as the Align's is more central shifting the centre of gravity of the paddle.
But, as Mattie has said and I to am struggling to see the aerofoil differences from the photo, if it's leading and trailing edges are sharper this will balance things out and probably even over take the Aligns for response.

Do you know the weight of them over the Aligns?
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[CookieMan]

Ben,

This depends on what align paddles you have. Are the front edges sharp or rounded? They bought out two styles.

If you have the sharp paddles the V's will feel smooth and less agresive. If they are the more rounded ones you may not feel difference.

Hey Mattie,

When you asked the question about the front edges being sharp or rouded, Im just curious to know if you meant "rounded" as in the Stubz paddles?

Will this actually make that much of a difference - is it all to do with the friction with the surface area in contact (with the air)?

Din't mean to hijack, Ben.

In this case now, the larger paddle has an almost similar geometry compared to that of the Align's...so..?? (how does this affect the flight characteristics at the end of the day?)

Thank you guys.

Cheers,

[jamiem]

if you dont want the v's, ill have em off you, fancy trying the 50 size variant as i love the 90's

[trillian]

Hey Ian.

K&S years ago used to sell a range of plastic paddles which had two mounting holes, one for aggressive cyclic response (the rearward one) and another for a more balanced feel (forward hole).
They worked well on my TSK Five Star (now I am showing my age mentioning this model) and were bright pink from memory

If you can experiment I would say give it a go, just be wary of the change in feel but otherwise I'd be interested to know what you find on a model of todays 3D standard.
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I have a couple pairs of those that I got with a Robbe Futura. In the rearward mounting position they are very very aggressive. I have them on a Futura now in the forward position and with a pair of flybar weights and they feel pretty good but now that I'm used to that heli I might try moving the weights in a bit.

[Jamin_00]

Yea, sorry for the quality just graqbbed them while I was sitting there with my iPhone

The V paddles are more sharp at the front and thinner that the Aligns, but not by much.

I just got them so will chuck them on tomorrow and see how they perform compared to the Aligns.

Where can I get those K+S paddles and are there different ones, which should I look for?

[oneandonlyian]

O.k just got back from the field had 4 tanks through it. 2 tanks to start with the paddles were at the front mounting hole and heli seems to flip quite well so i changed the paddles to the hole which is centre of the paddle and tried the same flight again and It just seemed the same. Didn't feel any more or less stable and didn't seem to flip or roll any quicker.

Im just wondering whether or not my heli is set up wrongly in some way or am i expecting too much from what seems to be only a 5mm adjustment. I dont have the align paddles any longer to try again.
I was expecting big differences as I had 3 or 4 people say be carefull that will make it a hell of lot more twitchy but it didn't.

sorry to steal the thread but i think we could all learn a little from this subject.

Ian m