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  • #31
    Do it they are seriously good...

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    • #32
      anyone know how picky this unit is with Geometry?
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      • #33
        what do you mean geometry?

        any heli/fbl system or even a flybar for that matter will only be as good as the mechanics below it. the old adage the top coat is only as good as the primer coat springs to mind.

        cheers

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        • #34
          Does the vortex have a "blue light" if you will or a preferred slider position indicating best value for say 12 degrees of collective?
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Andy from Sandy View Post
            Does the vortex have a "blue light" if you will or a preferred slider position indicating best value for say 12 degrees of collective?
            in a word, no :-).

            cheers

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            • #36
              The manual gives you figures to go for when setting cyclic, less than 120 is considered ideal. This sounds a bit like the V Bar figures on the sliders

              vi) Cyclic Direction: Operate the cyclic stick and select the option that
              makes the swashplate move the correct way.
              vii) Cyclic 8 degrees: Use a pitch gauge and adjust this value so that 8
              degrees pitch on the main blades is reached. Keep it below 120% if
              possible and adjust the servo ball link if necessary to achieve it.
              viii) Cyclic Limit: Adjust this value to set the maximum cyclic that the
              Vortex is allowed to use. Due to geometry of the swashplate and head
              linkages there may be small variations between the displayed and
              measured values. This is not a problem nor will it affect the way
              the helicopter is flying. Also, ensure that collective pitch is set to
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              • #37
                Originally posted by waveydavey View Post
                The manual gives you figures to go for when setting cyclic, less than 120 is considered ideal. This sounds a bit like the V Bar figures on the sliders
                Then that kind of answers KnifeEdge's question. Thanks Dave.
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                • #38
                  the figures are the butterzone if you like for the electronic gain. i.e if you are miles outside this then your either losing out on speed/resolution/gain or a combo of all.

                  it is impossible to have a generic if you like as designers differ in what they consider the correct mixing ratios to be.

                  cheers

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                  • #39
                    On a trex 700 dfc, i have found the outer holes on the swashplate to work best.
                    You could also increase servo ball spacing which will do the same thing as
                    I have found that any model i have changed from a v bar to vortex has needed this to gain enough pitch travels within the data pod +- range.

                    cheers andy k
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                    • #40
                      What are we looking for in particular Andy or does that become apparent once we start going through the setup
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by anjki View Post
                        On a trex 700 dfc, i have found the outer holes on the swashplate to work best.
                        You could also increase servo ball spacing which will do the same thing as
                        I have found that any model i have changed from a v bar to vortex has needed this to gain enough pitch travels within the data pod +- range.

                        cheers andy k
                        well as far as I remember the outer holes are the ones to be used anyway as per manual, only for the vbar to get into the "speet spot" you needed to go for the inner ones
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by waveydavey View Post
                          What are we looking for in particular Andy or does that become apparent once we start going through the setup
                          You will run out of available pitch in the pitch menu if you dont increase your servo throws.
                          13 deg pitch gives me a value of 93 of an available 100.
                          8 deg cyclic gives me a value of 89.
                          seems to be the sweet spot on the dfc nitro setup,i tried differnt ratios however this setup felt the most locked in.

                          I will look into my dfc electrics tommorow,to help electric users

                          cheers
                          andy k
                          Last edited by anjki; 05-02-2013, 10:17 PM.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by r4nd0m View Post
                            well as far as I remember the outer holes are the ones to be used anyway as per manual, only for the vbar to get into the "speet spot" you needed to go for the inner ones
                            What manual, if you're talking about the build manual then you can throw that in the bin when it comes to integrating a third party flybarless unit as they will all be different, the BeastX needs the inner holes to get anywhere near the blue light
                            Last edited by waveydavey; 05-02-2013, 10:23 PM.
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