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  • vortex virgin help please

    Apologies if there is already a topic containing the information I am looking for.

    I have a Trex 700e DFC HV and a vortex VX1 with sensor and as I have had so much trouble with flybarless I am looking for a complete idiots guide to placement, orientation and sensor placement, and wiring connections. Any install pictures or drawings or even just a list of what servo goes to which location.

    thank you in advance.

  • #2
    There is a really good how to guide on here (have a search) failing that the installation guide on the Spartan rc website takes you through everything really well.
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    • #3
      There are some excellent vids as well from memory by Bert kammerer. Might be a few versions old for the software but it hasn't changed that much so still helpful.

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      • #4
        As others have said, the manuals from Spartan are well written and easy to follow on the wiring and setup. The sensor can be placed in almost any orientation but it must be flat / horizontal and facing front, back or sideways either upright or inverted and generally speaking it works best with quite firm tape. Most of mine have the sensor on a gyro tray over the boom but I have one in a gasser with the controller and sensor on a tray in front and have no problems with vibes.

        The main thing about the Vortex is calibrating the TX to give you the right movements for all the sticks and switches and then setting the correct swash type and sensor orientation so you're getting the right swash movements from the sticks and from the Vortex, getting the cyclic 8 degree points and throw limits, then you're pretty much good to go. I find that using the heli wizard and using the 3D preset often produces a perfect result that doesn't require any tweaking. If you're using the governor in your ESC then you have even less setup to do.

        Here are the Bert K videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2fLzSN3enk
        Last edited by trillian; 12-09-2016, 11:57 AM.
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        • #5
          there is Myxiplx's guide found here. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwY...NmWlNmZm8/view
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          • #6
            Nice work from Ross. Shame it looks like Spartan are being edged out of the scene
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            • #7
              Originally posted by waveydavey View Post
              Nice work from Ross. Shame it looks like Spartan are being edged out of the scene
              What makes you say that Dave?
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              • #8
                Pm sent
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                • #9
                  For anybody starting with the Vortex the main thing is to download the Spartan Studio software and follow the steps in that. It walks you through the process, from binding your radio, to connecting your servos, with wiring diagrams in the software as you work through.

                  I also wrote my guide above to help a beginner through the whole process, from unboxing to maiden flight.

                  But if you've any other questions, just ask :-)
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                  • #10
                    why do you say spartan is being edged out
                    Trex 700N DFC Vortex VX1n
                    Trex 600N DFC Vortex VX1n
                    Trex 500 DFV Vortex VX1e
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                    • #11
                      I look at the traffic on here and heliFreak, the second hand market where they can't be given away. The lack of supported pilots here in the UK, they've all moved on to other units. The lack of updates, the lack of posts on FB from Spartan. The general market I can't imagine is that big and Spartan were late to it so they had an uphill battle in any case. A great unit and I used them for a number of years and my comment is my feelings and not based on numbers sold etc as I wouldn't know that. But we've got 45 members all fbl and only 1 uses Spartan, before I swapped we had 2. The others are a mixture of mainly Vbar, BeastX and a couple of Spirits with the German one making up the majority. It's not scientific but I think a reasonable statement to say that this more than likely reflects the market.
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                      • #12
                        i must admit i use 3 of them and very happy with them but to be honest haven't been flying much so have not kept up. i know Neil left but thats it
                        Trex 700N DFC Vortex VX1n
                        Trex 600N DFC Vortex VX1n
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                        • #13
                          It seems like the 'killer app' for FBL the last couple years has been a rescue feature, which is why Spirit has come along and gained a lot of users even though they were even later to the party than Spartan. The Beast X had an early big following and then went quiet for a while then came out with a new version with rescue and now they seem to be back in as a player.

                          I think about three years ago I would have jumped onto something with a rescue feature but now I'm not convinced it would really help or make me feel any different when flying. I have seven Spartans now and find them so easy to work with and would hate to give that up.
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                          Robbe, RMJ Raptor gasser, powered by
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                          • #14
                            It's certainly a nice feature to have, although I never got a chance to use it except to see how it worked before the only one I had was nicked. I agree though that a lot of the vortex fanbase has drifted towards vbar judging by people's signatures. I still have some vortex in a box I had as spares and will keep them for now. But if I did buy new it would be something with rescue simply for peace of mind. Given I like the way vbar flies, although more expensive than some, I would probably get a neo.

                            My only acquisition so far is a G380 which has a brain2 fitted. Will see how that is before I consider a neo purchase though.

                            Im sure if and when we see a vortex with rescue a lot of people will be interested.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by waveydavey View Post
                              Nice work from Ross. Shame it looks like Spartan are being edged out of the scene
                              Spartan isn't going anywhere and there is very active development for V5 firmware, rescue and the next generation hardware for the Vortex platform.
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