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  • Hyper sesnitive cyclic

    Hey dudes

    Just a quick one for all you VX1n users, have any of you experienced your cyclics going massively over sensitive? I had this happen on my 700e and I'm trying to figure it out.

    It's been flying really nicely for a couple of months and then suddenly I had a roll rate that a 3d plank would have been proud of! I thought it was pretty cool to start with and flew it like that for a about a week or so. Then they became so sensitive the heli was over correcting and would carry on rotating for around 1/4 of a roll after centering the cyclic.

    I went through another setup as when I checked my settings I found I had somehow gone from 8 deg of aileron to almost 11 deg. After a new setup the heli flew fantastic again but after 3 flights the hyper cyclics were back again only this time I still had 8 deg on aileron and elevator.

    I have just done a factory reset and am going to do a full fresh setup to see if it cures it. I am trying a few mechanical changes as my 700 was origionaly a flybarred machine so I had to move the ball links in to get correct 8 deg but my swash still has the longer balls fitted.

    Has anybody else experienced this before? up until this the vortex was awesome and even with hyper cyclics it was still flyable if you were a nutter!

    One more thing

    I have attached a snippet of my flight log, can anybody tell me if this looks fairly normal?

    Cheers

    Gary
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    MSH Protos Max V2. Vbar Neo, Cyclone 715, zeal, talon 120
    MSH Protos 500 FBL. VX1e, Zeal 480
    Trex 150. In one piece and flying well........for now!!
    Futaba 14sg



    http://www.oxonhelicollective.org.uk

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  • #2
    if yet to have a problem and can only suggest check your dampers. i used both efl head and dfc and ball link were fast on dfc but still flies great, however ive always used kbdd lime green dampers and these last ages if you using align maby theyve gone a bit soft. other than that dunno


    edit: just noticed your in didcot mabe angelos could have a quick look hes a nice chap. spartan hq is didcot i believe

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    • #3
      The dampers are almost brand new. Angelos actually only lives 200 yards from me! I thought I'd post on here as the Spartan forum seems to be down and Angelos doesn't really need to be bothered by work on a weekend��

      If changing the balls doesn't work then I might try firmer dampers as you mentioned.

      Cheers.

      Gary
      MSH Protos Max V2. Vbar Neo, Cyclone 715, zeal, talon 120
      MSH Protos 500 FBL. VX1e, Zeal 480
      Trex 150. In one piece and flying well........for now!!
      Futaba 14sg



      http://www.oxonhelicollective.org.uk

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      • #4
        You could try posting on the club spartan group in facebook - that often gets you a very quick response and your problem solved.

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        • #5
          I think you might be experiencing something I find with the Vortex, if you slowly roll the Heli it's nice and proportional and feels as if it's on your thumbs. Crank the stick quickly and you get a very quick savage response that catches you out if you're not used to it. You might need to adjust the cyclic response and add some expo in the vortex if it is this feature
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          • #6
            It turned out to be the gyro pad causing the issue! I got Neil to have a fly of it and he felt it was too sharp even after fitting different swash plate balls and going through a setup again. New gyro pad fitted and problem well and truly solved! It's even cured a tendency to push the nose down while doing aileron tic-tocs!
            MSH Protos Max V2. Vbar Neo, Cyclone 715, zeal, talon 120
            MSH Protos 500 FBL. VX1e, Zeal 480
            Trex 150. In one piece and flying well........for now!!
            Futaba 14sg



            http://www.oxonhelicollective.org.uk

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            • #7
              As a point of reference for the rest of us which type of pad did you use originally and what's underneath the unit now please?
              Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived

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              • #8
                For the benefit of others I origionaly had 2 of those generic sticky foam pads (Pritt pads or something like that) they have worked with the beastx and numerous tail gyros but the vortex clearly wasn't happy! I now have the thin foam pad that comes supplied with the vortex.
                MSH Protos Max V2. Vbar Neo, Cyclone 715, zeal, talon 120
                MSH Protos 500 FBL. VX1e, Zeal 480
                Trex 150. In one piece and flying well........for now!!
                Futaba 14sg



                http://www.oxonhelicollective.org.uk

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