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    i put a brain 2 on my goblin nitro and when I hit rescue I am getting correct orientation and climb out but also about 45 degree right aileron and no matter what I seem to alter I cant get rid of it, I have a brain 1 on my 700 comp and it works perfect......any clues?
    GOBLIN 700 COMP, PYRO 800-48, KOSMIK 200, 710 THUNDERBOLT BLADES, 115 THUNDERBOLT TAILS, MSH BRAIN.
    GOBLIN 700 (BLACK NITRO) OS105HZ-R + PIPE, BK 8001 & 8005, MSH BRAIN 2
    all on FUTABA 14SG
    DJI PHANTOM 2, FULL FPV SETUP ON FUTABA 8FG
    2400w COOLICE CHARGE CASE WITH PL8 DUO.

  • #2
    Vibes,had the same on my Trex 700n,ended up not using the rescue
    • Trex 700N RMJ,msh brain
    • Goblin 700 black thunder sport,vbar Neo
    • Trex 700L Dfc,vbar Night Flyer
    • Trex 700x,Vbar Neo
    • Goblin 570,msh brain
    • Goblin 380 kse,msh brain
    • ​NeXt sim and DX9 and Vcontrol

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    • #3
      Vibrations will make the FBL loose track of where level is, which effects nitros more than electric. All you can do is try to isolate the FBL from vibration as best you can.
      Goblin Kraken, SoXos Strike 7, XLPower Specter, Goblin Black Thunder T, Goblin 700 Speed, Goblin 770 Comp Carbon, Trex 700X, Kasama Dune, Henseleit TDR

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      • #4
        As others have said, it's almost certainly a vibration issue. The Futaba foam tape under the unit is recommended, particularly for nitros.

        Personally I don't trust rescue anymore having had a perfectly well flying heli chucked at the ground when testing rescue. It seems the vibes had gradually built up over time and were confusing the sensors. There were no warnings that something was wrong. Of course if I'd checked the logs from time to time I would have spotted the problem but I didn't. All rescues are now disabled.
        So many heli's, so little time.

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        • #5
          Maybe worth just checking that the unit is on perfectly straight and not tilted to one side or out of line? I use Maplins double sided tape doubled up on all my brains and all seem fine. Only issue I had was tail kept dropping, that was done to the unit being a couple of though out on the back of the heli, quick straighten up and was bang on.
          Align trex 700x brain 2 BT
          SAB Goblin 700 KSE Brain 2 BT
          Trex 600 ESP brain 2
          and one helicopter mad son, who drives me bonkers wanting to watch, fly and go to the field


          Spektrum DX9.......and you can say what you like to the EX Mrs, we split up, so she can #%$€ her self!!!

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          • #6
            thanks for the reply's, I will see what I can sort. ;-)
            GOBLIN 700 COMP, PYRO 800-48, KOSMIK 200, 710 THUNDERBOLT BLADES, 115 THUNDERBOLT TAILS, MSH BRAIN.
            GOBLIN 700 (BLACK NITRO) OS105HZ-R + PIPE, BK 8001 & 8005, MSH BRAIN 2
            all on FUTABA 14SG
            DJI PHANTOM 2, FULL FPV SETUP ON FUTABA 8FG
            2400w COOLICE CHARGE CASE WITH PL8 DUO.

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            • #7
              Let us know how you get on.
              Tron 7.0 advance Vbar evo V Control
              Foamy plank
              icharger 3010b, Coolice 24v psu
              Member of MK Heli Club and LMAC

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              • #8
                Hope you get it sorted Paul
                Kr
                Craig

                Goblin 700 KSE, Trex 700x, Goblin 770 Sport - Build in progress
                Armattan Chameleon, Losi 5T, HPI Baja
                Aj Laser 60" - Build in progress

                Jeti DS-16

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                • #9
                  Will do mike.....and yes i do craig as you have seen what it does....
                  GOBLIN 700 COMP, PYRO 800-48, KOSMIK 200, 710 THUNDERBOLT BLADES, 115 THUNDERBOLT TAILS, MSH BRAIN.
                  GOBLIN 700 (BLACK NITRO) OS105HZ-R + PIPE, BK 8001 & 8005, MSH BRAIN 2
                  all on FUTABA 14SG
                  DJI PHANTOM 2, FULL FPV SETUP ON FUTABA 8FG
                  2400w COOLICE CHARGE CASE WITH PL8 DUO.

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                  • #10
                    I did, and it looked a strange one!

                    The unit looked perfectly square. And other than this issue your heli flew amazing
                    Kr
                    Craig

                    Goblin 700 KSE, Trex 700x, Goblin 770 Sport - Build in progress
                    Armattan Chameleon, Losi 5T, HPI Baja
                    Aj Laser 60" - Build in progress

                    Jeti DS-16

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                    • #11
                      From what I've read it's quite common with systems with self levelling and/or rescue and higher levels of vibration.
                      I've only got one heli with rescue, it's electic and doesnt suffer the problem but it's not hard to understand why it happens when you think about how these systems work. They figure out 'which way is up' during initialisation by detecting which way gravity is pulling on the accelerometers. After initialisation they need to keep track of which way is up based on detecting every tiny movement of the heli and working that back to it's starting position. It's pretty amazing that they can do this at all, but then if you add some vibrations into the mix it gets whole lot harder. The software needs to try to filter out the vibrations, but not filter too much out otherwise small 'genuine' movements are missed. There comes a point at some level of vibration where significant errors start to creep in and track of the 'up direction' is lost.
                      Last edited by Grumpy; 22-12-2016, 01:40 PM.
                      Goblin Kraken, SoXos Strike 7, XLPower Specter, Goblin Black Thunder T, Goblin 700 Speed, Goblin 770 Comp Carbon, Trex 700X, Kasama Dune, Henseleit TDR

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