Mirko Cesena *My VBar NEO * | SECRET SETTINGS

[RichardV]

[mahbouni]

Thanks, I saved the video to my Watch Later in YouTube because I know I'll never be able to find this thread when I need it.

[nkma]

Numbers
I put the numbers down, if anyone prefers it that way.

When there are three numbers, Mirko normally flies with the third, that corresponds to 2200 RPM.

Mirko Cesena settings for Neo / Logo 700

Expo: 38/38/38
Style: 105/95/95
Rate++: 124/126/128
Gain: 69/69/69
Autotrim: Trim off


Expert
Elev Prec.: 10
Paddle Sim.: 0
Heli Size: 50
Integral: 60
Pitch Pump: 0 (10 on heavy heli)
Cyclic Ring: 85
Optimizer: 64
Optimizer: Off


Tailrotor
Expo: 27/27/27
Rate++: 138/138/138
Tail Gain: 77/77/77
(Tail compensation of cyclic: 8)

Tail oprimize
TC Coll: 22
TC Cycl: 8
Zero Col: 0
Side A: 19
Side B: 60
Optimizer: On

Tail expert
Accel: 55
P Gain: 80
I Gain: 60
I Limit: Off
Stop Gain A: 25
Stop Gain B: 20
D Gain: 0
I Discharge: Off

Governor
Headspeed: 1900/2080/2200
ESC output 40/40/40
Gov. Gain: 36/37/37 (HobbyWing)

Headspeed Expert
Bank 1: 1900
Bank 2: 2080
Bank 3: 2200
Autorotation: 10% (fixed ESC value)

Collective
Positive Collective: 93
Negative Collective: -93
(Adjust the mechanics so the pitch is symmetric)

Cyclic
Cyclic value: 81

Tail
Left Limit: 108
Right Limit: 108

Governor End Points
136T - Logo 700 New
Sensor config: 5
Pinion: 14
Runup Limit: 3
Min Throttle: 20

/Bo

[bigpops]

You have an error. Sensor config for the governor should be 5, not 6.

i watched the video to check. A setting of 6 would mean a 12 pole motor was being used, and I know of no such motor

[nkma]

You have an error. Sensor config for the governor should be 5, not 6.

i watched the video to check. A setting of 6 would mean a 12 pole motor was being used, and I know of no such motor

Thank you! Corrected now!

/Bo

[RichardV]

[nkma]

Numbers for Logo 550
Before I add the numbers for 550, please view Mirkos numbers with some scepsis.
Don't assume that it is the settings that you will like most or that will fit your flying style best.

It is still interesting to see what Mirko likes and also how his settings differs between 550 and 700, IMHO.

That said, here are the numbers...

Mirko Cesena's rekommended settings for Neo / Logo 550
I strongly recommend against powering up a heli on the bench without taking the blades off or unplugging the motor. The only exception is when in e.g. a 12S setup, 6S can be connected to electronics but not to ESC/motor.

Expo: 30/30/30 (This is what Mirko preferes in a VBC. Choose what you prefere.)
Style: 90/90/90 (Quite precise.)
Rate++: 114/114/116 (Controls AIL and ELE "speed". 200 is max, but probably way too high.)
Gain: 62/64/64 (Avoid "vibrations".)
Autotrim: Trim off (Not needed if the mechanical setup is right. Piruette should be straight.)

Expert
Elev Prec.: 10 (Elevator Precompensation.)
Paddle Sim.: 0 (No...)
Heli Size: 50 (Mikado recommends 50 for all Logo's from 500-700.)
Integral: 60 (Heading hold gain for banked main rotor.)
Pitch Pump: 0 (10 on heavy heli. Adds collective at fast collective stick move.)
Cyclic Ring: 85 (Limits combined output for AIL+ELE.)
Optimizer: 52 (I don't know how this relates to "Rate++".)
Optimizer: Off (Auto tweek of AIL/ELE rates.)

Collective Curve: -105, -52, 0, 52, 105

Collective Balance: 35

Tailrotor
Expo: 25/25/25 (This is what Mirko preferes in a VBC. Choose what you prefere.)
Rate++: 128/128/128 (Some 460°/second, I guess.)
Tail Gain: 76/64/60 (Tune for crisp but without wag.)
(Tail compensation of cyclic: 8)

Tail oprimize
TC Coll: 22
TC Cycl: 8
Zero Col: 0
Side A: 10
Side B: 75
Optimizer: On (Mirko leaves optimizer on.)

Tail expert
Accel: 55
P Gain: 80
I Gain: 60
I Limit: Off
Stop Gain A: 25
Stop Gain B: 20
D Gain: 0
I Discharge: Off

Governor
Headspeed: 1640/2300/2560
ESC output 40/40/40
Gov. Gain: 32/38/41 (HobbyWing 120)

Headspeed Expert
Bank 1: 1640
Bank 2: 2300
Bank 3: 2560
Autorotation: 10% (fixed ESC value)

Gov Expert
Coll. add: 30
Cycl. add: 10
Coll. dyn: 0
Basic Thro: 50
P lim - : 20
Integr.: 20
P lim + : 20

Main Rotor – Collective
Positive Collective: 105
Negative Collective: -105
(Adjust the mechanics so the pitch is symmetric)

Cyclic
Cyclic value: 92

Tail
Left Limit: 90
Right Limit: 90 (Adjust link and servo arm to get it symmetric.)

Governor End Points
153T - Logo 700 New
Sensor config: 5
Pinion: 16
Runup Limit: 3
Min Throttle: 20

Please advise if I have made any mistakes writing the numbers down!

/Bo