Setup For the Rave ENV Please?

[clark-newcombe]

Hi,

Does anybody have any experience or setup tips for the rave env?

Cheers
Clark

[GIXERMAN]

setup as manual, fly it, done

[George J]

Unless you're using vbar, then there is a few things you need to change in order to get better geometry on the head, stock set up for vbar gives you to much pitch. Firstly, i'd set it up as 120 degree rather than 140 for swash, you'll need 10mm ball spacings on the servo wheels (Quickuk alloy servo wheels are perfect) get 2x 4mm Quickuk balls and the 2mm plastic ball links (you need to drill these out 2.5mm for the rod) to replace the balls on the swash that the pitch control rods attach to. Set everything else up as the manual.
I found all plastic ball links to feel pretty tight and didn't feel very nice tbh but they will free up nicely after a flight or two, especially with the nitro! :-))

[rachel]

as for the swashplate shorter balls I had some off the trex 600 nitro flybared which were the thread required to fit the Rave's swash plate but fitted the Rave's links , sorry i dont have a part number but any trex 600 le nitro ones off the mixer arms worked :-)

Nowt to change on the rave really its a fine heli :-)

[jayfrs]

Hi Clark,

the rave you have bought was mine and it had a beast x in it before hand it's good to plum ur beast in and fly!

[tonystevens]

Think hes using a beast x so wont have to change anything to get the geometry right.

(sorry just noticed jays post above )

[George J]

as for the swashplate shorter balls I had some off the trex 600 nitro flybared which were the thread required to fit the Rave's swash plate but fitted the Rave's links , sorry i dont have a part number but any trex 600 le nitro ones off the mixer arms worked :-)

Nowt to change on the rave really its a fine heli :-)

Good to know Rachel, thanks. :-)

[clark-newcombe]

Hi,

Thanks all as Jay and tony mentioned Beast X should just plug and play, Mine does still have the 140 swash setup. Doesn't this change the resolution or something? As most people are saying that you have to change balls and links and some say switch to 120. I have no knowledge of a 140 swash setup at all.

Also Jay, do you know if the bits on this setup are stock or have the balls been changed.

Idiotic spoon feeding required here, been a long time since i flew a 90 and if i screw this up ill probably be put off for life. The shear size of this beast is scaring me already (and blocking the view of the tv)

Thanks

Stan

[tonystevens]

you need to select the 140 1=1 in the beast x stan, if you select the other 140 option you will get un wanted collective inputs when you move the elevator. Dont need to change a thing other than that

[clark-newcombe]

Thanks Tony, whats the difference between 140 and 120 obviously i can see from the swash they move differently, whats the pros and cons? Ive heard of phasing issues on this model but im guessing thats with one of those silly rods with paddles on ?? LOL

[jayfrs]

I only chanaged the 2balls on the swash that the pitch links attached to as one of them went brittle for some strange reason so I stuck the short ones on tht the v-bar uses but it still will be fine with the beast!

[tonystevens]

Thanks Tony, whats the difference between 140 and 120 obviously i can see from the swash they move differently, whats the pros and cons? Ive heard of phasing issues on this model but im guessing thats with one of those silly rods with paddles on ?? LOL

I believe theres less interactions with a 140' set up but you get a greater movement on the elevator axis, 120' has equal forces on all three servos, correct me if im wrong lol??

[trillian]

I believe theres less interactions with a 140' set up but you get a greater movement on the elevator axis, 120' has equal forces on all three servos, correct me if im wrong lol??

I think the idea of the 140 degree is to have the same amount of movement of the two servos in front as the elevator servo, so basically they all have to move the same degrees of rotation to acheive a certain tilt of the swash. This is so that, for example, the two aileron servos won't be able to tilt their end of the swash up faster than the elevator servo can tilt it's end down and vice versa because if they do then you'll have collective interaction.

I have seen the idea discussed that if the servos are all super fast then it becomes a moot point. Sooooo, depending on the servos and how fast you're moving the sticks there may be little, if any, noticeable difference.

[trillian]

Ive heard of phasing issues on this model but im guessing thats with one of those silly rods with paddles on ?? LOL

I don't know of any phasing issues with the Rave but the BeastX will compensate in any case.

I had an Ely.Q Vision Ultimate which most definitely did have all sorts of interaction as well as phase issues and the BeastX cured all of that instantly because basically a FBL controller will make any and all adjustments it needs to try to hold a position.

[trillian]

By the way Clark, if you go to the AHA season opener at Gumley you'll see a lot of Raves, they're very popular in F3C (or at least they were last year).