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  • maiden today beastX on 600n pro

    I was a little worried about my cut and carved head, grips flipped, and using some phoenixtech 600D blades that are quite lively - so with some trepidation I lifted off to find it was absolutely rock stable and the blades tracked spot on. A bit of messing about showed the TX controlled limits at 100 were bit sedate so I landed, fueled up, put tail and cyclics to 120% and went for a proper fly.

    I'm loving it.
    Tail seems very good. I pushed the tail gain up a bit high after a bit and got it to bounce on the stop but not wag. There is a bit more performance to come on that I'm sure. I'm using KBDD tail blades.

    The only down side seem a bit less stability at the end of an over flared auto as the blades slow right down, and of course the strange forced leap into the air that never quite straight.

    What happens with these things if you do a blade stop auto?

    My Beast is mounted on the front Gyro mount above the front cyclic servos using two layers of ripmax servo mounting foam - exactly as I used on my CSM720 (having read all the conflicting reports about how to mont the thing). I made no adjustments to the pots yet. I couldn't see any cyclic wobbles unless I managed to bog the head right down - despite what are undoubtedly lively blades (perhaps the stabilising effect of the delta offset on my modified std head helps with that).
    I could really notice the extra power from the lack of flybar.
    So now I have to sell some stuff to get another one for my 500
    www.heli-extreme.co.uk a good club in south Sheffield
    600n pro BeastX Align DFC head bls251, 3xbls451, align gov, 600d, 2in1
    trex500, BeastX DS510 swash, Beast X cutr and carve head DS520 HK3026-1900, Align 425D blades, 5S4200 rev'trix, K&BDD dampers, AR6200
    "450" superframeSTK, align DFC head v2tail, hk22281-8 on 3S 9650w9257gear commander 55A align 325D hitec digitals Tarot ZYX, AR6100e
    MCPX kbdd tail and blades, miniaviation bats

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  • #2
    Nice one mate, glad you are enjoying the beast!!
    Simon


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    • #3
      Here's a pic of my rotorhead. I had some old plastic washouts and tried them cut up. These allow some movement in the swash centre that might change the phase - now I'm impressed with it I'll chop up my metal ones.
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      www.heli-extreme.co.uk a good club in south Sheffield
      600n pro BeastX Align DFC head bls251, 3xbls451, align gov, 600d, 2in1
      trex500, BeastX DS510 swash, Beast X cutr and carve head DS520 HK3026-1900, Align 425D blades, 5S4200 rev'trix, K&BDD dampers, AR6200
      "450" superframeSTK, align DFC head v2tail, hk22281-8 on 3S 9650w9257gear commander 55A align 325D hitec digitals Tarot ZYX, AR6100e
      MCPX kbdd tail and blades, miniaviation bats

      Dont spend more flying models than it costs to fly for real

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      • #4
        Told you you'd like the tail Gordon. As long as you find settings that stop it from wagging in tail slides etc I think it's more than good enough. What blades are you using, I found the Align 3G's good. The standard 600d's would have no hang whatsoever left leaving no margin for error.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by moyesboy View Post
          What happens with these things if you do a blade stop auto?
          Anyone doing "Blade Stop" autos needs to see a doctor IMO.

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          • #6
            Anyone doing "Blade Stop" autos needs to see a doctor IMO.
            I have regular apointments with my doctor.
            I'm wondering if a blade stop would just tilt the swash to the limit as the blades slowed and be unrecoverable? It seems at the end of an auto it gets a bit unstable if you slow it too much.

            The blades are phoenixtech 600 which are quite like the align 600d but all black so you can't see them so well - and only slightly cheaper since align seemed to drop the price. I bought a couple of sets when the normal 600d became unobtainium and all there was around was the wood cores which people didn't seem to like.

            As regards hang time- doesn't seem that much change from dropping the flybar.
            www.heli-extreme.co.uk a good club in south Sheffield
            600n pro BeastX Align DFC head bls251, 3xbls451, align gov, 600d, 2in1
            trex500, BeastX DS510 swash, Beast X cutr and carve head DS520 HK3026-1900, Align 425D blades, 5S4200 rev'trix, K&BDD dampers, AR6200
            "450" superframeSTK, align DFC head v2tail, hk22281-8 on 3S 9650w9257gear commander 55A align 325D hitec digitals Tarot ZYX, AR6100e
            MCPX kbdd tail and blades, miniaviation bats

            Dont spend more flying models than it costs to fly for real

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            • #7
              Nice 1 Gordon, must say I love mine


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              • #8
                I like this FBL stuff.

                See the rod from swash to blade grip is that not likely to bend or pop off the ball link ? It's quite an angle?




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                • #9
                  The load goes from ball centre to ball centre so it won't bend unless overloaded and it didn't pop off yet
                  www.heli-extreme.co.uk a good club in south Sheffield
                  600n pro BeastX Align DFC head bls251, 3xbls451, align gov, 600d, 2in1
                  trex500, BeastX DS510 swash, Beast X cutr and carve head DS520 HK3026-1900, Align 425D blades, 5S4200 rev'trix, K&BDD dampers, AR6200
                  "450" superframeSTK, align DFC head v2tail, hk22281-8 on 3S 9650w9257gear commander 55A align 325D hitec digitals Tarot ZYX, AR6100e
                  MCPX kbdd tail and blades, miniaviation bats

                  Dont spend more flying models than it costs to fly for real

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                  • #10
                    are the blades nhp's ??
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by moyesboy View Post
                      The load goes from ball centre to ball centre so it won't bend unless overloaded and it didn't pop off yet
                      Are they in line with the main shaft, if not they need to be.
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                      • #12
                        I agee they ought to be, but they are std grips 'cos I'm a cheapskate. The grips are leading, so the delta offset is stabilising, but the dampers are the hardest KBDD. We'll see what happens as the dampers wear. I already posted what the blades are.

                        waht is correct and what works adequately are not the same thing. I've seen no downside - but only flown it in a mild wind as yet. Usually its 20mph minimum where I fly

                        J-S-Q has been using this head mod for a while.
                        www.heli-extreme.co.uk a good club in south Sheffield
                        600n pro BeastX Align DFC head bls251, 3xbls451, align gov, 600d, 2in1
                        trex500, BeastX DS510 swash, Beast X cutr and carve head DS520 HK3026-1900, Align 425D blades, 5S4200 rev'trix, K&BDD dampers, AR6200
                        "450" superframeSTK, align DFC head v2tail, hk22281-8 on 3S 9650w9257gear commander 55A align 325D hitec digitals Tarot ZYX, AR6100e
                        MCPX kbdd tail and blades, miniaviation bats

                        Dont spend more flying models than it costs to fly for real

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                        • #13
                          sorry i didnt see it .
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                          Furion 6- Vbar, Optipower
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