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  • Trex 600 Beast 6 Degs

    Set up the beast today, fairly easy but just one bit that I'm not sure about.

    When teaching the cyclic pitch I get purple light at 6 degrees.

    To get the blue light I need to move to 8 degrees pitch.

    I've set it at 6 degs and just accepted the purple but has anyone any suggestions as to how to get into the perfect blue ?

    TREX 600LE, Align DS610 on inner servo holes for cyclic.

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  • #2
    There must be something else different, what head are you using. I have the same setup with the Align head and on the inner servo ball holes I have blue, it's as if you need to go to the outside holes for some reason to give you more throw for less servo movement, how strange.
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    • #3
      Unless you are going to do some kind of mod to the head then your only option (that I can think of at least) is to shorten your servo horns (although this is theoretically not ideal because it will leave you with non parallel linkage rods between the servos and the bellcranks -I probably wouldn't worry too much about that though within reason)
      Last edited by J-S-Q; 17-12-2010, 07:04 PM.

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      • #4
        It's the align head,

        With the blades front to back at zero degrees I moved the aileron until the pitch guage read 6 deg.

        At this point the light on the beast is purple.

        The light goes blue at 8degs pitch so it's as though I would need to in a hole on the cyclic servos but I'm already on the inner holes.

        I know that other 600 owners do get a blue light at 6 digs so I'm thinking something is wrong earlier in the set up - can't think what though.

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        • #5
          Think I had a purple light at 6 Degree's

          Aslong as you get the 6 Degree's just set and forget.

          Each setup is different on each machine.. Some 600s have a bigger swashplate etc etc.

          Some person on the forum modded his 600 to get Blue Light - Think he used the 600e bell cranks and elevator arm,.
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          • #6
            Most important thing is to tell the unit what is six degrees, have u changed the blade grip holders or moded them at all


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            • #7
              6 degrees is more important than a blue light! it will be fine as i have 2 x700s on a beast x one is 6 degrees blue light and the other is 6 degrees purple light I think!
              Last edited by jayfrs; 17-12-2010, 11:04 PM.

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              • #8
                Mate.. I'm having a headache with V2 like I did with V1.. its doing something stupid again!..

                I'm using Align head aswell but I've put a shorter shaft on mine which I think could be the problem??.. I'm getting blue light at 3 degrees!! and on the cyclic limit adjustment, I'm getting 12 one way and over 15 the other! Arrrggghhhh!!!.. I need help again!!!
                Eddie
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by rapidgaz View Post
                  Most important thing is to tell the unit what is six degrees, have u changed the blade grip holders or moded them at all


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                  No it's the standard fbl head

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                  • #10
                    I am sure I have read on this forum or on Helifreak some people have set the beast to 7.5/8 degrees! But again go with the 6 and don't worry about the light!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Eckchaz View Post
                      Mate.. I'm having a headache with V2 like I did with V1.. its doing something stupid again!..

                      I'm using Align head aswell but I've put a shorter shaft on mine which I think could be the problem??.. I'm getting blue light at 3 degrees!! and on the cyclic limit adjustment, I'm getting 12 one way and over 15 the other! Arrrggghhhh!!!.. I need help again!!!
                      It can only be Eddie that your off centre, IE that the swash isn't in the centre of the available swash movement. Did you change the links by the same amount that the shaft is shorter.
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                      • #12
                        Resolved - I think.

                        I've done this 4 times now with the same result each time.

                        When learning cyclic pitch, moving the aileron stick right to 6 degs gives a red light.

                        When learning cyclic pitch, moving the aileron stick LEFT to 6 degs gives a blue light.

                        I've check it over and over again. Cyclic limits are 15degs either way running +12 -12

                        Can't explain this.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Eckchaz View Post
                          Mate.. I'm having a headache with V2 like I did with V1.. its doing something stupid again!..

                          I'm using Align head aswell but I've put a shorter shaft on mine which I think could be the problem??.. I'm getting blue light at 3 degrees!! and on the cyclic limit adjustment, I'm getting 12 one way and over 15 the other! Arrrggghhhh!!!.. I need help again!!!
                          Can't see how the shorter shaft makes any difference - try my solution above - any different ??

                          sigpic Trex 700 OS91,Vbar,S9254,DS610,NHP
                          Trex600LE, OS50,Vbar,LTG6100,DS610X4,NHP
                          Raptor 30V1 Maverick Head
                          OctoCopter
                          Futaba 14SG


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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by waveydavey View Post
                            It can only be Eddie that your off centre, IE that the swash isn't in the centre of the available swash movement. Did you change the links by the same amount that the shaft is shorter.
                            Yes Dave.. had to get the 700E links to make them short enough! Just posted something else that I think it could be on my thread.. as not wanting to hijack this one!

                            Originally posted by Mslater View Post
                            Can't see how the shorter shaft makes any difference - try my solution above - any different ??
                            My cyclic pitch is fine for 6 degrees "blue light" .. I'm just having problems on the limits on menu "L".. getting different throws in each direction when it should be the same... Oh sod it, didnt want to hijack as above but.... The only thing I can think of is that I cant shorten the links at the end of the Aileron levers and because I have a LE metal arm on the elevator which has no link to be shortened (unlike the 700's).. So, its not giving me the correct centre despite shortening the swash drivers to get 0 pitch. So I think this could it be the reason for my problems? I think i'm going to get the standard main shaft on tomorrow and set it up and see what happens!
                            Eddie
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Mslater View Post
                              Resolved - I think.

                              I've done this 4 times now with the same result each time.

                              When learning cyclic pitch, moving the aileron stick right to 6 degs gives a red light.

                              When learning cyclic pitch, moving the aileron stick LEFT to 6 degs gives a blue light.

                              I've check it over and over again. Cyclic limits are 15degs either way running +12 -12

                              Can't explain this.

                              I am a F*king idiot !!!! - Still had some aileron trim in from the fly barred setup.

                              Thanks for you help guys, but it was all my fault - working fine now.

                              sigpic Trex 700 OS91,Vbar,S9254,DS610,NHP
                              Trex600LE, OS50,Vbar,LTG6100,DS610X4,NHP
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