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    Hey all,

    Flew a couple more tanks on the vision fbl today and it's mint.

    Getting a phasing or interation issue now however. When I do a fast climb froma hover it rolls to the left. Not sure of it does the same with a fast descent. Will fiddling with gains help this or is it a vibration related issue?
    Harry

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  • #2
    How is the swashplate driver mounted?
    Direct on the head block or onto a clamp on the mast fixed with a screw?
    Paul.
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    • #3
      The plastic anti rotation links are on the head. The links are perfectly centred down the shaft too.
      Harry

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      • #4
        I doubt it has anything to do with phasing, as it's purely related to collective, not cyclic.

        Have a look at the servo geometry (I once accidentally set different servo arm lengths on swash - not recommended).

        Also check the microbeast manual, page 45. It mentions problems with vertical climbouts. I'd try to trim it slightly in the other direction.
        http://www.beastx.com/manuals/MICROBEAST_PV_ENG.pdf
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        • #5
          Cheers I'll check it out. I have all my links at the exact same length to the swash. I did notice the heli was drifting to the side in the hover very slightly, but it was the opposite direction to when climbing fast, so I put it down to the wind.
          Harry

          Mikado Logo 700 | VBar Neo | JR HV Servos | Pyro 750-50L | Kontronik Kosmik 160HV + buffer pack|
          Thunder Tiger G4 E720 | CGY760 FBL | BLS272SV + BLS276SV | Align 800MX Dom 440kv | Kontronik PowerJive 120HV + Opti UltraGuard |
          SAB Kraken 580 6S | Spirit FBL | BLS173SV + BLS276SV | HK4025 1100kV | Kontronik Kolibri 140LV + Opti UltraGuard |


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          • #6
            Thanks all. I added a bit of right cyclic trim via parameter A and it flies on rails now.

            Next question. When I do a fast collective climb, the tail quicks slightly. Do I up the gain via the Tx, or the heading hold gain on the BeastX? I've found that if I up the tail tx gain more the tail vibes like crazy in FF.

            Cheers!
            Harry

            Mikado Logo 700 | VBar Neo | JR HV Servos | Pyro 750-50L | Kontronik Kosmik 160HV + buffer pack|
            Thunder Tiger G4 E720 | CGY760 FBL | BLS272SV + BLS276SV | Align 800MX Dom 440kv | Kontronik PowerJive 120HV + Opti UltraGuard |
            SAB Kraken 580 6S | Spirit FBL | BLS173SV + BLS276SV | HK4025 1100kV | Kontronik Kolibri 140LV + Opti UltraGuard |


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            • #7
              Which setting light have you got it on the parameters menu? Try lowering the gain in the parameters menu and then playing with the Tx gain again.. that sorted mine!
              Eddie
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Eckchaz View Post
                Which setting light have you got it on the parameters menu? Try lowering the gain in the parameters menu and then playing with the Tx gain again.. that sorted mine!

                +1 on that
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                • #9
                  Hmm, when I had it that way the tail would go crazy in FF. I did have the tail rod ball on the furthest out hole. I've now moved it in one on the horn, and upped the Tx gain slightly. I have my tail gain on high in the parameter menu (flashing blue).
                  Harry

                  Mikado Logo 700 | VBar Neo | JR HV Servos | Pyro 750-50L | Kontronik Kosmik 160HV + buffer pack|
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                  SAB Kraken 580 6S | Spirit FBL | BLS173SV + BLS276SV | HK4025 1100kV | Kontronik Kolibri 140LV + Opti UltraGuard |


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                  • #10
                    Change your gain on parameters down to low (Red Flashing) and play around the 35-50 gain on the Tx.. you should near enough get a rock solid tail!!
                    Eddie
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                    • #11
                      this could be usefull if you have not seen it.
                      YouTube - mguw's Channel

                      steve
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                      • #12
                        linkage travel inner or outer holes?

                        Been avin a look at the 'E' version aile and ele arms, with the extra holes in. should be able to get a blue light up when setting up with these fitted?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SGsailing View Post
                          this could be usefull if you have not seen it.
                          YouTube - mguw's Channel

                          steve
                          Yup got them bookmarked, and watched a few times

                          Cheers!
                          Harry

                          Mikado Logo 700 | VBar Neo | JR HV Servos | Pyro 750-50L | Kontronik Kosmik 160HV + buffer pack|
                          Thunder Tiger G4 E720 | CGY760 FBL | BLS272SV + BLS276SV | Align 800MX Dom 440kv | Kontronik PowerJive 120HV + Opti UltraGuard |
                          SAB Kraken 580 6S | Spirit FBL | BLS173SV + BLS276SV | HK4025 1100kV | Kontronik Kolibri 140LV + Opti UltraGuard |


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