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  • Beastx tail issue.

    Last week my tail was just how I liked it. This week however things seemed different.

    The tail is holding ok but the stops are bouncy. The tail continues after an input then comes back. It's only slight but it's a little annoying.
    From what I had read I think it's an imbalance in the settings. I have the holding gain in the unit on high an the gain in the radio at about 38%

    The pot on the unit is now at the standard setting.

    Think i just need to get the combination of these settings right and it will be fine.

    The rest of it is now bang on. Cyclic is on extreme and upped my atv's to 120 and it's an animal but the tail needs to be sorted to complete this.

    If I can't figure it out I will just reset all the tail settings and start again. Failing that I will go back to my trusty GY520
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  • #2
    Ben
    Sounds to me like a gain setting is too high mate. This is mentioned in the Parameter set up instructions. It should be an easy fix with a bit of patience.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Jamin_00 View Post
      Last week my tail was just how I liked it. This week however things seemed different.

      The tail is holding ok but the stops are bouncy. The tail continues after an input then comes back. It's only slight but it's a little annoying.
      From what I had read I think it's an imbalance in the settings. I have the holding gain in the unit on high an the gain in the radio at about 38%

      The pot on the unit is now at the standard setting.

      Think i just need to get the combination of these settings right and it will be fine.

      The rest of it is now bang on. Cyclic is on extreme and upped my atv's to 120 and it's an animal but the tail needs to be sorted to complete this.

      If I can't figure it out I will just reset all the tail settings and start again. Failing that I will go back to my trusty GY520
      I thought the idea was either to use the presets like 'extreme' or go to 'radio' and run one's own atv's and expos rather than mixing them??

      ..hasn't been an issue for me since the presets are working OK on my two.. not that I fly hard combination moves..best i can manage is a string of ticktocks or flips and then get over the stress
      PGK
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      • #4
        Bouncing back is a symptom of too high a gain on pot 3 or too high a gain on parameter D.

        On my 550 i have had to put the Tx gain down to 35 to stop a wag at speed and i have never touched parameter D on any i have done.

        So i would reset parameter D to default Red led and adjust pot 3 from default setting until tail locks properly and does not bounce back.

        Please dont revert to a gyro the Beasts tail is awesome
        Last edited by ChrisB; 12-09-2010, 07:27 PM.

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        • #5
          Will do chris.

          As for using atv's is this an issue?

          It really made a difference to the heli today and it feels so much better now.

          I slowed the tail down also using the atv also.
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          • #6
            I use Atvs to to slow the piro rate or play about with the cyclic rate as well.

            I am on extreme for cyclic but have increased atv also on both my models.

            I cannot rate the tail on the Beast highly enough i was fighting a wag on my 550 today cured by finally dropping the tx gain to 35%.

            The hold is exceptional,piro rate very consistent and stops are good with pot 3 turned up a bit.

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            • #7
              On my 700 I have in parameter D The tail heading lock gain set on default Red = medium*

              Turned my ATVs down to 90 and radio gain down from 50% to 45% today.

              I am gonna turn it down even further because flying FFF coming out of massive loops I still have a very minor shudder on the tail.

              Tail holding power is excellent as is the piro rate and stops are plenty good enough for me.

              No wagging and really getting to grips with it now.

              As Chris stated the units own gyro is certainly excellent and every bit as good as a Futaba GY520 which I have previously owned.

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              • #8
                I would rate the tail as good as my 720 which is high praise indeed. I don't know why but the stick position and the corresponding piro rate just seems to be right, for me anyway. I don't know whether I have just been lucky but I can't fault it. Andy Kirby flew mine yesterday and thought the tail was excellent and he is piro man.
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                • #9
                  This is good. All I like in a gyro is perfect hold as I don't do piro moves so as long asthenosphere hold and movements are crisp I'm happy.

                  I will reset and start the tail again as I thought it must be me. Will drop the holding gain on the unit back to normal and play the the 3rd pot as the gain in the radio seems to be fine.
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                  • #10
                    Sounds like a plan,parameter D to default and reset the 3rd pot to factory setting,stops will probably be a bit soft,slowly increase until the tail locks firm without bounce.

                    Tx gain is good so leave that alone.

                    Let us know the outcome

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                    • #11
                      Will do but will prob be a couple of weeks, can't fly next weekend

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                      • #12
                        First time I haveflown it today.

                        Put parameter D back to red. The gain is fine as I have no shudder but can't get it to stop still without any movement.

                        Bugging me now.
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                        • #13
                          I have had to set the gain quite high on my 700 to get this right. Probably going against most but I am happy with it now.
                          Parameter D set to very high.
                          Gear channel set to 75% on DX7.
                          Pot 3 turned to 1 oclock if the default is 12.
                          As I said pretty high but works for me.
                          Ade.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by machasm View Post
                            I have had to set the gain quite high on my 700 to get this right. Probably going against most but I am happy with it now.
                            Parameter D set to very high.
                            Gear channel set to 75% on DX7.
                            Pot 3 turned to 1 oclock if the default is 12.
                            As I said pretty high but works for me.
                            Ade.
                            I have the gain right as any higher it will wag during certain moves.

                            I will up parameter d higher and see if that helps.
                            + 7 x Eddies finest EGS's


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                            • #15
                              What is the optimum ball position on the servo horn on the tail servo for a 90 with the beastx?
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