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  • The secret Bavarian Demon model

    I've just been talking to my contact at Bavarian demon and he told me in the UK only it seems the 3X model is a big secret that nobody knows.

    So to clarify, as I have been asked the same question more than once, the 3SX unit has the "Rescue mode" and the 3X unit is virtually the same unit without "Rescue mode". But the 3X is only £190.

    So I'll copy and paste from a PM here rather than keep repeating, as I hear other explanations on t'interweb are a bit vague.

    There is a video, but it's hard to see really, we tried making one ourselves too, it's not easy to show the model and the TX and as a viewer you can't really see when it is in "Rescue mode".
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt0nfU7O15k

    I have a DX8 and I use the top right switch, basically the one nearest my cyclic which I can't miss in an emergency.
    There are 3 flight modes:
    1. Normal flight -- Which I have mid switch
    2. Rescue mode -- Level and climb which I have in upper switch position
    3. Level only -- which I have in lower switch position.

    In normal, it just flies like a 3X, for level and climb you choose in setup whether you want it to always level right way up or nearest way up, I use nearest way up, when you hit "Rescue mode" it levels right way or inverted and adds about 6-8 degrees of climbing pitch. In levelling only it feels to me just like a GPS controlled heli, your collective stick behaves normally and the heli levels when having no input from cyclic, although it does drift with the breeze unlike GPS.

    I find myself taking off and landing in levelling mode, just to help avoid those nasty tippy moments during spool up, or descending into a rut you can't see and tipping over on landing.
    I've used the level and climb in anger once, lost orientation, froze a moment then just hit the switch.

    Also as an experiment I put it in "Rescue mode" and spanked the cyclic around as the stick overrides the unit, despite my best effort to get it down, she just kept on climbing, very clever stuff.

    See, clear as mud
    Just a trusty rusty Raptor E550 these days

  • #2
    I love it Ben, never use leveling mode though.

    I see that as a beginner aid. Let go of the sticks and it self levels, not needed for me but a great feature for learners.


    I demonstrate it at the field often, and the best way is literally wiggle the sticks like mad like you would on the sim then hit the switch and watch it level and climb in an instant. Film that and it will be easy to see. I did this the other day for a guy who just got one at the field and wanted to see it work.
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    • #3
      Why not ask for help with it instead of your remark here which will only get peoples backs up? 99.9% of problems with FBL units is user error or lack of understanding.
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      • #4
        I can't help here as I never had a tail bounce but as G says rather than posting crap like that start a thread to try and solve the issue.
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        • #5
          Yep, best FBL unit I've ever used... I've got 3 x 3X!
          Kasama UK | Bavarian Demon

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          • #6
            Ben,

            Good to see your arrival of Demons! I just sold all my vbars because of those things. Setup was a breeze (with a little help from the other Ben ... Jamin_00 :-) ). They give a basic flyer like myself a lot of confidence that where I ask the model to go it will go and they track so well when flying fast (for me anyway). I do have the ones with rescue and ended up using it in anger last weekend after a back flip went a little wrong as I pulled aileron on and not enough height! All my fault but no rebuild cost and a big smile as the 700 levelled and shot up into the clouds.

            The 3X sounds great value and if I understand... you can send it in and get it upgraded to have rescue if you want it later on?

            Cheers,
            Alastair
            Gaui R5 + 14S + Tribunus 200 + Scorpion 4530/540 + Bavarian Demon Axon
            Gaui X3L + Bavarian Demon 3SX
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            • #7
              Originally posted by AlastairC View Post
              Ben,

              Good to see your arrival of Demons! I just sold all my vbars because of those things. Setup was a breeze (with a little help from the other Ben ... Jamin_00 :-) ). They give a basic flyer like myself a lot of confidence that where I ask the model to go it will go and they track so well when flying fast (for me anyway). I do have the ones with rescue and ended up using it in anger last weekend after a back flip went a little wrong as I pulled aileron on and not enough height! All my fault but no rebuild cost and a big smile as the 700 levelled and shot up into the clouds.

              The 3X sounds great value and if I understand... you can send it in and get it upgraded to have rescue if you want it later on?

              Cheers,
              Alastair
              I kept a mini vbar for the vibration analysis, but all my machines are on BD.

              You're right, the 3X can be upgraded at the factory for a fee.
              Just a trusty rusty Raptor E550 these days

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              • #8
                So whats the upgrade fee?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by heliboy View Post
                  So whats the upgrade fee?
                  Upgrades

                  EUR 218,49 excl. VAT

                  so £215.70 at today's exchange rate

                  some other stuff here about older units http://www.bavariandemon.com/en/prod...pgrade-to-3sx/
                  Last edited by BenScoobert; 11-04-2014, 09:31 PM.
                  Just a trusty rusty Raptor E550 these days

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