what is it with Align and there FBL controllers?

[Lynx.1677]

I'm saying nothing.........................damn it I just can't resist.


VBARRRRRR!

[coolice]

My lips are sealed ;-)

In all honesty guys this topic has been done to death, both of the mid range units (3GX & beastx) have their good points and bad points. The beastx wins fans due to it being so much more user friendly than the 3GX, Align are addressing this problem with recent firmware upgrades and indeed V2.1 appears to be quite good. I've only tried it as yet on a 450 in not ideal conditions and it felt good.

Many 3GX problems are setup related, some are defective units (they are made in their thousands) and others are peoples perception of what should be happening. Needless to say once setup they work, but just like the beastx on late if something is amiss then flight performance will be degraded.

A vbar the 3GX or beastx is not and may not ever be, but for thier price they do the job for the majority of fliers.
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[tourerjim]

I've gone from using 4 beastx & changing them to so far 3 3GX in my heli's the difference for me is the real feel i get between tx & heli, yeah I've had my fare share of setup problems with the 3gx & I think the biggest problem for me has been the amount of cyclic the 3gx manual tells you to setup & its this that makes them so unstable i've found, so what I've done now on 2.1 dir 8 degrees & in flight mode set cyclic to 8 degrees then I've adjusted flip/roll rates to suite, for instants when i was doing continuous side rolls @12 cyclic heli keeps moving out of syn just so annoying so kept reducing cyclic & was noticing rolls where getting better then got down to 8 degrees & perfect" so then it just men't getting the flip/roll rates to match my roll speed & now my 3 heli's hold a continuous roll but also noticed how much more stable they've became not that I had problem before but allows me to make other parameter adjustment to get even more better results.

[chadvandonkey]

Simple answer - supply & demmand.

There are simply far more 3GX's on the new & used market than the others which helps bump the price down versus the vbar etc.

So far I have only flown the one FBL heli - my trex 700n with 3GX (which used to be FB'd before I converted it) and I think it flies great. I cannot say it is better or worse than the others as I've not yet tried them but my mate has just converted his trex 600n to BeastX and it is taking a lot of setup adjustment. It's robotic and jerky, nods a lot and looks horrible. Turn the pots down just a smidge and it drifts - like there is no middle ground. Maybe it's setup but either way I believe that it's simply personal preference rather than being good or bad.

Some people say Vbar is the best becuase they are simply influenced by others opinion. A real world example is a good 3D flier at our club flies a 700n with the original Align 3G controller and loves it. He flew another member's 700n with Vbar and afterwards said he couldn't feel any real difference.

My advice is to try it for yourself and see how you get on - and get it setup correctly!