3GX noob questions - V1.2?

[CW.]

Hi,
Being new to flybareless and 3GX, Im just wondering if I should use 1.1 or 1.2? (thats assuming its not already 1.2 as its new).

Also, can I plug the 3GX into the PC on the bench? ie. just the unit on its own not installed on the heli yet?

[AlastairC]

Not that I am an expert of the 3GX having only just set up one but when I plugged into my PC on its own nothing worked. I needed to power the 3GX (I used an old esc and a battery) and I then needed to then bind it to my transmitter as I was using the sat option. Then the lights lit up and I could get the USB to show connected.

[Baldie]

Needs to be powered up and bound, But no need to have servos connected.

Form the software point of view, I found the V1.1 felt better.

[coolice]

Hey.

As above, I to feel V1.1 is the best firmware. Over on HF I was saying this quite early on after V1.2's release, but many said V1.2 is much better. However those that did have now seen the light and downgraded.

From memory V1.2 is best if you're running the govenor on an IC machine, the the head speed calculator works better I've heard. Also improvements were made to the tail feel and hold, but at the expense of cyclic performance.

A lot of it is personal preference, so if you like tinkering try both, especially after you have a good working V1.1 setup as you can easily go back to it if you didn't like V1.2.
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[CW.]

Also improvements were made to the tail feel and hold, but at the expense of cyclic performance.

Hi,
When you say performance.... I am no where near stick banging yet. In fact, very much at the gentle circuits and 8's level.
Do you still feel the 1.1 is the best for my level of flying?

Chris.

[coolice]

Hi,
When you say performance.... I am no where near stick banging yet. In fact, very much at the gentle circuits and 8's level.
Do you still feel the 1.1 is the best for my level of flying?

Chris.

Hey Chris.

In reality mate you could use either one and be happy I'd say, a couple of club members are flying V1.2 with my settings file from V1.1 and are very happy with the models. This is when flying basic aerobatics with some 3D flips thrown in during their learning phase.

The main thing I suppose is to say you wont have problems with either firmware, just V1.1 is preferred and so being as I've spent the most time with V1.1 I'd say go with this version.
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[CW.]

Cheers coolice, plenty to think about..
In the beginning, for me I would just like the 550 to be solid, stable, predictable and easy to fly. Then as I gain confidence in it I can wind things up a little.
Im flying the 450 around quite happily now, just need to move on to bigger and better things, preferably without kacking myself at the sticks of a mental heli

[Three6ty]

Hey Chris.

In reality mate you could use either one and be happy I'd say, a couple of club members are flying V1.2 with my settings file from V1.1 and are very happy with the models. This is when flying basic aerobatics with some 3D flips thrown in during their learning phase.

The main thing I suppose is to say you wont have problems with either firmware, just V1.1 is preferred and so being as I've spent the most time with V1.1 I'd say go with this version.
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Hi,
In the thread with your various settings files to download, there is one for V1.1 and one for V1.2 beta. Are you saying that if I'm on V1.2 I should download your V1.1 file and put that into the V1.2 3gx software? Will it even work, or would I have to write down all the settings in the txt file and manually put them into the 3gx software running v1.2? Or is the V1.2 file you've uploaded better for V1.2? Sorry for the million questions! Just gauging what people are finding best.
I am running a 600 Nitro V2 so the better gov settings in V1.2 appeal.

[coolice]

Cheers coolice, plenty to think about..
In the beginning, for me I would just like the 550 to be solid, stable, predictable and easy to fly. Then as I gain confidence in it I can wind things up a little.
Im flying the 450 around quite happily now, just need to move on to bigger and better things, preferably without kacking myself at the sticks of a mental heli

Hey.

You're very welcome buddy, glad to help where I can.

As you're flying a 550 I would suggest V1.1 and my settigns file, for the simple reason that I spent my most time with a 3GX on this model and had it flying quite nicely in the end. No major problems or things to worry about.

Definetly you will love the 550 going from the 450, I've literally just sold my own 450 as with the 550 & 700E the little one just wasn't so much fun anymore.

Keep me posted.

Hi,
In the thread with your various settings files to download, there is one for V1.1 and one for V1.2 beta. Are you saying that if I'm on V1.2 I should download your V1.1 file and put that into the V1.2 3gx software? Will it even work, or would I have to write down all the settings in the txt file and manually put them into the 3gx software running v1.2? Or is the V1.2 file you've uploaded better for V1.2? Sorry for the million questions! Just gauging what people are finding best.
I am running a 600 Nitro V2 so the better gov settings in V1.2 appeal.

Hey.

What happened was I wrote the beta release of V1.2 to my 550E and proceeded to test and tweek my original settings file to extract the best flight performance out of V1.2 as I could. However when I struggled to remove some little quirks I'd suceeded in doing with V1.1 I gave up and went back to my tried and proven settings on the original firmware.
Now, in recent times others have upgraded to the public release of V1.2 and then used my settings file which I was using on V1.1 and had good results. Two fellow club members are currently flying their models with V1.2 and my 550E settings on a Trex 500 and 2x 600EFL's.

As you are using the govenor I would try V1.2 first as it does improve this area greatly so I am told and then flash my Trex 550E V1.1 settings to the model, you may need to make small gain changes to allow for increased vibrations from the IC engine but otherwise you'll be good to go.

Again keep me posted on how you get on and model feel, as I can help advise what to change should we need to make changes.
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[super]

Hi,

Just for info, I tried the "beginner" settings on my 550 and it was rock solid, was almost flying itself. Not had a chance to play about much as crap weather and a holiday got in the way.

From my brief try out, I know I need to change setting to liven it up a bit as it was a bit wooly and slow, but super stable.
Plan to try "normal", "expert" and also Ians setting on Sunday if poss, so I'll let you know whats what.

On v1.2 by the way.

Cheers,

John

[CW.]

Hey.

You're very welcome buddy, glad to help where I can.

As you're flying a 550 I would suggest V1.1 and my settigns file, for the simple reason that I spent my most time with a 3GX on this model and had it flying quite nicely in the end. No major problems or things to worry about.

Definetly you will love the 550 going from the 450, I've literally just sold my own 450 as with the 550 & 700E the little one just wasn't so much fun anymore.

Keep me posted.

Thanks again coolice,

Sounds like your settings for V1.1 had the 550 flying like a dream. I think I will have a play arround to see the differences. maybe try the standard beginner settings, then try yours.
I cant wait to see the difference in flying between the 450 and 550.

Hi,

Just for info, I tried the "beginner" settings on my 550 and it was rock solid, was almost flying itself. Not had a chance to play about much as crap weather and a holiday got in the way.

From my brief try out, I know I need to change setting to liven it up a bit as it was a bit wooly and slow, but super stable.
Plan to try "normal", "expert" and also Ians setting on Sunday if poss, so I'll let you know whats what.

On v1.2 by the way.

Cheers,

John

Hey John,

I think I will try the 'beginner' settings to start with as you have. Once Ive got used to the heli then I will look at trying coolice's settings and 'normal'
Ill be VERY interested to hear how you get on when you try 'normal'

Thanks for the info....

Chris.

[CW.]

I was thinking about downloading the 550 TX setup for my DX8 from the Spekkie website before I do anything.
Is that a good idea?

Chris

[super]

Well, that did'nt go as planned...

Was way to cold, my fingers were numb afer 3 mins on the sticks, so no testing done.

What I can tell you though, is that the "beginner" settings are fine for basic flight, so start with them and tune from there. From what you say about your abilities, you'll find those settings nice and calm and you'll be fine with basic forwards flight.
Hopefully, next week end will be warmer and drier!

As for the TX settings, I worked from a blank defualt setting.

Cheers,

John

[CW.]

Cheers John,

I am going to do the initial setup in 'beginner' and go from there. It may be too tame for me too, but its easy to move up to the next level if thats the csae.

[steveru]

Sorry to hijack your thread but the answer to my question may be useful to you or others.
I'm using the 3GX on a 600N with Coolice 550 settings and firmware V1.1 but I'm experiencing a violent pitch up during FFF.
Other than that the heli is really nice to fly.
Hopefully, Coolice or someone else will know which setting to tweak.