Mini Vbar Vs Beast x

[Planehazza]

You don't really need the laptop with you at the field when using vBars now either. There's a vStabi android (and I assume iOS) app for use with bluetooth on a smartphone/tablet. Can get the bluetooth units on ebay or from coolice on these forums.

Unfortunately it's just android as the bluetooth in iDevices is not modern enough.

[helimadness]

Unfortunately it's just android as the bluetooth in iDevices is not modern enough.

Yeah tried to get a bluetooth ear piece for my ipad and found it only supports bluetooth keyboards. Typical apple not compatible with anything.

But the Vbar Mini is about the same price as the Beast X. And later if you want you can upgrade to pro so yeah a little more but then you get a lot more cool features. So as I can tell the full version Vbar is only for Nitro, Scale and 4 cyclic servo models. So the mini will cover a big % of the models flying today for the same price as a beast x with option to upgrade to more features.

Have I got that right?

Cheers

[waveydavey]

So where are you finding the mini for £139 because I can't £224 ish the cheapest I have come across

[Planehazza]

Yeah tried to get a bluetooth ear piece for my ipad and found it only supports bluetooth keyboards. Typical apple not compatible with anything.

But the Vbar Mini is about the same price as the Beast X. And later if you want you can upgrade to pro so yeah a little more but then you get a lot more cool features. So as I can tell the full version Vbar is only for Nitro, Scale and 4 cyclic servo models. So the mini will cover a big % of the models flying today for the same price as a beast x with option to upgrade to more features.

Have I got that right?

Cheers

Where did you see that mate? Beastx is typically £140-150, whereas Vbar mini is ~£240 if I'm not mistaken?

EDIT: £225: http://www.fast-lad.co.uk/store/mik4...s-p-11319.html

[3dbasher]

I've flown vbar on a few occasions and it was very good, but not really had enough time to really push it and wasnt on my model so tend to go steady, I've had beast x and currently using an ar7200bx in my velocity 50.
i'm going to put the ar7200bx in my 450 and thinking either sk540 or vbar in the velo, vbar silverline is soooo expensive for what you get £300 once you,ve put pro on it, then the cost of satalites ontop makes it very expensive on a model i only fly 4months of a year.
Is it that much better than a sk540 to warrant another £100? probably not and the skookum has free updates has all the same basic features and is a small single box unit, i haven't totaly made my mind which way to go yet.
The reason i'm moving away from the ar7200bx on my nitro is i've found that the beast units tend to have a little moment on fast changes of direction especially when combined with high speed and or pumping of collective, also piro consistancy is good but gets upset under load and in wind or cross winds/sideways stuff.
Vbar seems to cope well with all of the above also with incorrect tail geometery, which the velocity 50 has it upsets ar7200bx

[helimadness]

Where did you see that mate? Beastx is typically £140-150, whereas Vbar mini is ~£240 if I'm not mistaken?

I get everything off taobao.com local version of ebay. Do a search for Vbar or Beast X as they are imported the English works ok. If you have Google chrome you can click on translate and get some sort of translation.

Mikado Vbar 5.2EX 5.3PRO for Vbar
MicroBeast for beast x

There are 100's of shops selling them. The vbar shop is the guy I have brought a lot off and he is very reliable. I just noticed his Mini Vbar is 1800 RMB and the "Chinese Version" is 1280. Ill ask him what that is about. When I brought my JR XG7 they had chinese versions. Im sure they are the real deal but packaged for the local market. Or maybe made here like everything else but sold direct out of the factory so no freight tax duty cost etc. Divide the price by 10 to get GBP. Eg 1200 RMB is about 120 GBP.

My full size Vbar I think I paid about 2000 (200 quid) for then had to get the pro upgrade online. Works perfect.

Ill let you know how I go but as I can see from here Mini Vbar same as Beast x within 10 quid anyway.

Cheers

[George J]

I've had Beastx up until recently and still have Beastx on my Logo 600se but have just put a fullsize vbar on my 700DFC (to try!) and can tell you (IMO) that the vbar is better, not light and day better, but better. A well set up Beastx is very good and lots of people probably wouldn't notice it but i've found with Beastx you're always having to do small corrections in flight and where I noticed the improvement most with the vbar is when, for example, you're flying across the field inverted and then do some traveling pirouettes, vbar will stay perfectly level, Beastx doesn't.
But the other real selling point for me was using the vbar governor which is (for £8 for a sensor) the best governor available. (I have a Kontronik, which of course is also very good but I think vbar is better)
I just want my models to go exactly where i put them (that doesn't always happen though!!) with out having to make unwanted corrections, however minor, so vbar is just that bit better at doing that.
All just my personal opinion but I have flown the 2 systems back to back for comparison.

Edit..Just bought another vbar for the Logo :-)

[helimadness]

ok so just found out the 120 quid Vbar is a "Gaui Vbar" with a few less features than the standard like 140 CCPM and rotation direction.

Does anyone use a Gaui Vbar? Is this the only difference?

Cheers

[LipolyGone]

Someone was talking about having a gaui vbar last week think it might habe been jason cook.
He found out that the gaui vbar would cost another $99 to update to pro.
I fly beast x & vbar & I typicaly spend around a week fiddling with pots on the beast x but spend maybe two days only tweaking the vbar to suit how lively I want the cyclics & tail to be.