4 Bladed Head question

[the-borg]

I have a 500 clone and I plan to put it in to an Apache fuselage with a 4 blade Head.
Question:- as it's a scale model and will not be hooning it around the sky like a mad thing do I really need an electronic flybarless system.

Thanks

[dave j]

yes you need a flybarless system for the head to work properly

[the-borg]

Hi Dave as a newbie to multi blade heads how dose it make the head work properly? As I understand the flybarless system it is a 3 axis gyro so it keeps the model level without input's for the TX.
Sorry if this is flybarless 101 stuff.

[pchristy]

Depends on the head. My 4-bladed Agusta 109 (OS 46 power) flies perfectly without any electronic help. The guy who won the Nationals scale comp was flying a 5-bladed, turbine powered Hughes 500 without any electronic help, and he was really wringing that thing out!

If the head is properly designed, and you use the right blades, you shouldn't need any extra help. It will have different characteristics from a fly-barred head, however. Nothing that a reasonably experienced pilot shouldn't be able to cope with.

[Paulice]

I have a 500 clone and I plan to put it in to an Apache fuselage with a 4 blade Head.
Question:- as it's a scale model and will not be hooning it around the sky like a mad thing do I really need an electronic flybarless system.

Thanks

No you don't need a flybarless system at all, But the flying will be smoother and more predictable with one, I had back in 95 a heli with a 5 blade head and in those days no electronic systems were made, I know many pilots today still fly without, the number of blades don't make any difference 2 3 4 or 5 all have the same tendencies while flying, push forward and you'll get a roll interaction depending on the rotor direction will make it go one way or the other. like wise roll will interact with Elevator, it's not much and can be countered easily

[Si Goodchild]

Considering you a using a relatively small and potentially twitchy model (500 size) and are new to this game then I suggest that Flybarless Controller is pretty much essential. They are very cheap these days, especially second hand, and will make the heli a pleasure to fly rather than a challenge. A no-brainer in my book, especially considering the cost and grief of a crash.

Si G

[aparkin]

i would have to agree with ( Si Goodchild ) if your spending all that time money and effort to do a scale model sure a extra 50 quid for a second hand 3g unit is a no brainier they have the gp780 tail gyro built in so tail is sorted and the 3g will make it a lot more predictable to fly

p.s are we getting any pics

[Andy_Ran]

I wouldn't fly a multi blade without. 1, I am not very good. 2, a crash cost would be huge 3, all my helis have fbl or at least will do

[Streetluge Chris]

The set up I have on my 500 scale bo105 build is the Align 4 blade head there cheap and no phasing
set up to do.
This is hooked up to a align 3g these a cheap seen them on hear for 35 pound.
Simple set up but it works .

[the-borg]

Thanks for all your input.
So the answer to my question is no you don't need a electronic flybarless system but It makes it the model nicer to fly if you have one.
I will start a post wiht some pictures when i get to the build I'm just getting all the bits befor I start.

[the-borg]

i would have to agree with ( Si Goodchild ) if your spending all that time money and effort to do a scale model sure a extra 50 quid for a second hand 3g unit is a no brainier they have the gp780 tail gyro built in so tail is sorted and the 3g will make it a lot more predictable to fly

p.s are we getting any pics

I have started a thread on the Scale forum with some pics