Is TotalG the way to go?

[TorqueTube]

I'm looking at going flybarless in the future and am wondering what might be the best way for me to go as a newbie, I am also looking at Governors for my Trex 600NP as well, so I wondered if the CY TotalG might be a good investment? so I can have everything in a nice small neat package? or would it be a case of having "all my eggs in one basket"??

Decisions decisions............

Nick

[Paulice]

Total G and V-bar will both have governors the total G has theirs working now and the V-bar you'll have to wait a little longer till it's out of beta testing and that is about to start in the next few days!

Both systems would be great for a beginner, but more people can help with V-bar than with Total G as it's a relatively new system.

[J-S-Q]

I think the forthcoming Futaba flybarless system will also have a governor.

[Paulice]

I think the forthcoming Futaba flybarless system will also have a governor.

It has

[TorqueTube]

I've been looking at the V-Bar and the Total G and it sounds like the V-Bar is a very good setup, i've just downloaded the software to have a look at and it looks great and would look very smart on my 600NP.

One question though, would I be able to use the V-bar with my flybar for the time being until I can save up a few more pennies for the FBL head? so I'd just be using the Receiver/gyro functions at first, and does anybody know when the Governor features will be available?

[LaurenceGough]

Go for V-Bar, so simple to set-up and will have a Governor soon, it's in final testing now from what I've heard. Flight performance is also the market leading.

You probably could just use the V-Bar as a tail gyro, but then you wouldn't be able to use it as a RX with Spektrum.

I would convert your flybarred head now and add the V-Bar onto it. Get a cheap governor to hold you over until the V-Bar one comes out.

[CChris]

Are you a beginner, or just new to fbl? If you are a beginner I would see what your local experienced flyers are using, v-bar, total-g, beast etc, since you will need their help setting it up. If you are just new to fbl, like I was last year I would go v-bar (as I did) because the support is 1st class. Not to say total-g is not a good system, I am sure it is, but I like the logic behind the separate sensor/unit.

Chris.

[Paulice]

Is your heli new?
The reason i ask is the governor is in testing now i'm one of those lucky enough to be testing it.
it will be released very soon, and if your motor is also new then till it's full run in then you don't need a gov anyway, so with the weather as it is maybe it's out before you need it??

[TorqueTube]

The heli is brand new so just need to run in the engine without a governor for now, but I was thinking long term, hope fully the V-bar will be all I need to serve me for the future, I had thought about the Align 3G but that'll be more wires to route, I want to try and have a nice clean setup.

If I buy a new full size V-bar will I be able to updgrade the software to enable the governor when becomes available? I'm new to Nitro Helis, my last heli was a 450 so looking forward to lots of smoke

[CChris]

Since you are only in Maldon, I can help you set up a V-Bar if you need any help. I have a 600 V-bar that is flying very well, using the Align 3G head, and you must fly locally to me. I fly either at Flambirds or Chelmsford.

You can upgrade to V-Bar v5 Pro software at any time, it will fly fine with V-Bar v5 Express. Express does not have the govenor, but you could alway get it flying on curvers.

I got my 600, flying perfectly with a Flybar before I converted it, and I am glad I did, the maidem did not go smoothly. Once all the issues where sorted, I converted it, and it flow great from there

Chris.

[extreme 3d]

Hi i run a total g on my n5 and love it. lots of help for this on freak and updates coming all the time to iron out bugs curtis will sort anything out he's a good man.setting is alot more explained aswell go for it pm for any questions

[barney]

Whilst a FBL system is nice to have its not at all necessary. It adds complexity and considerable cost that you dont really need at this point in time being a big investment for little gain at your stage of the game.

FBL systems are a quickly advancing technologhy ATM and what you buy now may well be old hat within a short while so your not future proof by any means.

A FBL unit contains several sensors none of which take kindly to the vibration levels of a Nitro, plus you have to guard against Fuel Ingress and ideally locate the unit in a well protected area. Not so easy as it sounds. also a FBL demands decent quality components adding to the cost.

I'm not trying to be a kill-joy by any means but the money spent would be better spent in burning fuel and the lower complexity will be benificial in keeping the airframe flyable for those little miss-haps along the way.

By the time you are a competent flyer chances are the technology, price and performance will be very much more attractive.

Brian

[extreme 3d]

total g you can switch flybarless off so you can use a normal with flybar if add the price gyro, governer, receiver together they come to around the same price so like getting flybar for free .

[ChrisB]

I would spend your money of fuel and get your sticktime in.Flybarless is not the be all and end all but it is the current in thing.

As mentioned its a rapidly expanding market and who knows what system will be the preferred one in six months time,might even be one thats not even available yet.

All of the systems mentioned and the beast x are extremely good,the choice is yours they all do the job well.

I use the Align Gov on my Nitros with the V bar and dont plan to use the coming Gov function for it,Jives on my Electrics so again not needed.