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  • Align 3G flybar less system

    hello is the Align 3G flybar less system sny good and is it easy to set up, also what flybar less system would you recomend
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    Wow, you might have just lit the blue touch paper here

    Your question is a bit open ended, because there are so many factors, cost, you ability to fly, the heli you intend to put it on, etc etc.

    At our field we have pilots using, VBar , BeastX, 3G, TotalG, and all would are happy. I think your choice need to be based on what your local club can offer you support with.

    Hope this helps

    Chris.
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    • #3
      Ive just had my first 3G 550e which I found just brilliant to fly on Saturday ! Im sure there are some issues about and I dont want to get in to them but I have no regrets on buying it and Im looking forward to flying again at the weekend ! Its like a big 450 pro and I intend on using for practising !

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      • #4
        In short id say yes its good but bypass the tail gyro and use another one The GP780 equivalent that the 3G uses is not even as good as their dedicated GP750 tail gyro IMO
        I use a spartan on both my FBL models and i have them and the 3G systems dialed in very nice now.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Made2Fade View Post
          In short id say yes its good but bypass the tail gyro and use another one The GP780 equivalent that the 3G uses is not even as good as their dedicated GP750 tail gyro IMO
          I use a spartan on both my FBL models and i have them and the 3G systems dialed in very nice now.

          This is the very reason i would look elsewhere. You may look at this combo:

          BeastX + RJX head = Same price or even less

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Asid View Post
            This is the very reason i would look elsewhere. You may look at this combo:

            BeastX + RJX head = Same price or even less
            Not as simplistic as a 3G system to setup though. TBH id still rather have my Spartan gyros on than the beastX tail gyro. The beauty of the 3G system IMO is that you pay one price and get everything you need in one little box. Now again IMO the tail gyros arnt very good on them but a beginner/sports flyer id imagine would be quite happy with it (not that im a 3d god or anything lol).
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            • #7
              +1 for beast X.. love it
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              • #8
                The 3G works fine for me as a relative beginner.

                Fairly easy to set up and my helis fly well.

                I am not doing extreme 3D however.
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                • #9
                  The 3G works ok tbh and I've seen people do mad things with it. It does have it's niggles as do most fbl systems but the upshot is that you get it all in one box which is a big selling point. The BeastX is far superior when it comes to out of the box performance though. It's not without it's issues but prett damn close to perfect.
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                  • #10
                    I firmly believe apart from piro rate the tail gyro on the Beast is every bit as good as any out of the box. I am or was a CSM 720 man through and through, in fairness haven't flown the Spartan and find the Beast suits my flying out of the box best part of. Done a bit with the dynamic gain and the head hold settings but thats it. It feels so progressive and fits my fingers bang on with the feel better than the 720.
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                    • #11
                      So far I've got 3 beastx heli's & 2, 3G, imo breastx is best suited for small heli's upto 500's, 3G is much better bit of kit for 500's & up' must admit I've not experianced any tail issue since Aligns latest firmware.
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                      • #12
                        I have the beast x and its the first FBL system I have used and I like it I LIKE IT ALOT I find the tail better than the spartan ever was (but that could be spartan needed tweeking). A great buy even if i did get into trouble for buying it.

                        I used the 3g on a 500esp night flying rig at north notts flyin I was nervous on the first fly as to the horror stories i have heard about, but it was super stable and very very responsive I would not have known it was 3g from beast x without helping the guy build it.

                        I would buy another beast x with out thinking about it and from my experience would buy the 3g if i couldnt get the beast x as im impatient
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                        • #13
                          I've tried a few fbl systems, but not tried a Beast X. I would love to try one to compare, but with some recent large bills, and helicopter repairs, I think it is still on the back burner.

                          I think that some units seem to fly better on certain helis than others. I have 2 3g systems on two different 450 helis. I have found them to have a certain neutral feel to it, with no real hesitancy that I found with another FBL system I tried on one. Altogether, I have tried 3 different systems on the 450, I have found that the 3g experience for me has been pretty positive. The tail gyro has to be carefully set up, otherwise it can be terrible.

                          The 3g tail has held for me in what I can throw at it. Tail slides, Funnels, fast backwards hurricanes..tic tocs etc etc... I am pretty confident in its piro consistency, and has been good enough for me to practice piro flips with it.. Tail has only ever let go for me when I was using an old pack, and pushed it to the point that the lipo was just not supplying enough power to keep the rotor speed up..

                          Still, different systems will suit different people, and I find the 3g perfect on both my 450 helis... and tbh, never tried it on a heli bigger than this. (I use the Vbars on logo 500 and trex 500)

                          Still, I have seen the 3g systems being sold on now at really ridiculous prices. I've seen brand new ones out of a kit for £50!???? I guess jumping on the Beast bandwagon has made the prices of these fall like a brick, and think it is a great buy if you find one at this price.

                          Personally though, If I were to get a brand new unit now, I would choose a Beast, as the cost of it with a rotor head is still going to be cheaper than going 3g, and from what It is obvious from ppls reports is that it is a lot more stable that the 3g.
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                          • #14
                            Thanks for the info mate,,,,,being toying with the idea of what f/bar system to get,, sounds like the align will suit me as 3d is beyond me- tend to do mostly sport flying with the odd flip thrown in !!, just have to decide whether I should go for just the bitz or a new 700e combo??
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                            • #15
                              I have some 3G electronics looking for a home. Were for my cobra project, but all I've used is the head.
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