fbl auto's

[electricsceadu]

some of you have been flying fbl for a while now
so how does the fbl heads compare to a flybared head in the auto?
i was talking to a guy today that had bottled out with doing any auto's on his 600 since he's had the 3g fbl on it

if the weathers ok, and if i've big enough b's i'm going to auto the fbl sceadu
and don't forget i fly it the mans way (you may call mad) without any electronic aids

[robgt]

The three I have tried have all autoe'd perfectly fine for me.

Align 3G
BeastX MicroBeast
Mikado Vbar

Cheers,
Rob

[millerman]

does it count if your auto was only from 12 foot up ????
if it does then my 3g system was fine

[electricsceadu]

thanks rob


you'll soon find out on tuesday if i dumb thumb it
look for the order of a set of shafts for a sceadu minus the flybar

[electricsceadu]

does it count if your auto was only from 12 foot up ????
if it does then my 3g system was fine

if the engines not driving the blades then its an auto

[millerman]

if the engines not driving the blades then its an auto

cool then my new 700 autos just fine

[Paulice]

Wit a flybar you can flare at the end and sit in a low hover till all the head speed has gone and the heli will land itself.

With FBL just don't play at the end, flare, level, land, don't panic you still have time.

[jeznewsome]

Wit a flybar you can flare at the end and sit in a low hover till all the head speed has gone and the heli will land itself.

With FBL just don't play at the end, flare, level, land, don't panic you still have time.

Why is that?

[Tim Procter]

With FBL just don't play at the end, flare, level, land, don't panic you still have time.

Sorry mate but I have to disagree.

My BeastX and the Align 3G unit before it executed auto's perfect including a piro flip before touchdown without any trouble.

[Paulice]

Sorry mate but I have to disagree.

My BeastX and the Align 3G unit before it executed auto's perfect including a piro flip before touchdown without any trouble.

Yes "you" can but do you not flare after the piro filp? but the OP was asking about doing his first autos, so my advice was for him and not for someone with your flying skills!

[GravityKills]

without electronic aids - you mean, unstabilized?
I don't think it will be much different from FB.
The main problem with FBL is the heading-hold controller, which will enforce a flip/roll rate that is independent of headspeed. Or die trying.
With an unstabilized head, the responsiveness reduces, as headspeed slows down. Just as on a flybar.

That said, I haven't tried. Of course, you have to take care of the flight path yourself, there is nothing that would compensate the tendencies to pitch up etc.

[waveydavey]

I have to say I think my 600 autos better fbl than with. I am no auto expert only having a dozen or so to my name but yesterday I had enough left at the bottom to stick a piro in. I think some of it was down to less drag from the flybar but most of it down to the flightpath in, instead of it being a bit up and down I could just pick the glide and fly it in using up less energy. Awesome.

[electricsceadu]

without electronic aid, yes i mean unstablized ie no g3,v-bar,gyros linked into the head etc



i've done hundreds of auto's flybared and none on the fbl
at the moment its p'ing it down so rains stop play

thanks for the input guys its sounds like its a none issue autoing fbl compared to flybared

[electricsceadu]

sorry rob
i don't need any sceadu spares


the fbl sceadu auto's well even though the flying conditions were very less than perfect
having done a tank full of auto's on it the only comment i can say
is don't fly a fbl without stablization in winds that are gusting up to 30mph (thats what my meter was telling me after i had landed)
as its horrible, the wind blows the heli all over the place

and then the heavens opened so i came home

[trillian]

sorry rob
i don't need any sceadu spares


the fbl sceadu auto's well even though the flying conditions were very less than perfect
having done a tank full of auto's on it the only comment i can say
is don't fly a fbl without stablization in winds that are gusting up to 30mph (thats what my meter was telling me after i had landed)
as its horrible, the wind blows the heli all over the place

and then the heavens opened so i came home

Well, autos aside, it's interesting to know what a heli might do without the flybar and no electronics to compensate.

I was recently reading a post somewhere about a Predator gasser FBL conversion, I think it was a 3G system, and he was saying with a pair of Scott Gray FAI blades it felt so stable he thought it didn't need stabilisation and was able to turn the gain on the 3G system down to zero.

He seems to be putting it down to those blades but I wouldn't think there's anything that magic about them.