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  • Spirit - Futaba/Kontronik Telemetry

    Just updated my Spirit to 3.1.0, and it was on 2.1, which was the latest the last time I flew anything RC. Long time!

    I have an SBUS inverter cable and a Futaba R7003SB Rx. Can I just confirm, that as of 3.1.0 that I will still need to replace my SBUS adaptor lead with an FrSky integration lead for Telemetry and also purchase an additional Telem UNI cable for the additional ESC telem. stuff?

    Second question, given that I have the non pro version with the single Sat port, is there no way I can also add a GeoLink into the equation without swappnng the unit for a a Pro model?

    Thanks!
    Harry

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  • #2
    You can use the Geolink with the standard Spirit. Not sure how it works with Sbus though as I am all Spektrum.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by trillian View Post
      You can use the Geolink with the standard Spirit. Not sure how it works with Sbus though as I am all Spektrum.
      Yeah it requires the use of the Sat port, but so does the ESC telemetry feature. Trouble is, non pro has only one port
      Harry

      Mikado Logo 700 | VBar Neo | JR HV Servos | Pyro 750-50L | Kontronik Kosmik 160HV + buffer pack|
      Thunder Tiger G4 E720 | CGY760 FBL | BLS272SV + BLS276SV | Align 800MX Dom 440kv | Kontronik PowerJive 120HV + Opti UltraGuard |
      SAB Kraken 580 6S | Spirit FBL | BLS173SV + BLS276SV | HK4025 1100kV | Kontronik Kolibri 140LV + Opti UltraGuard |


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      • #4
        Can the telem stuff not go through the sat adaptor that connects to the rudder channel? Seems a bit odd if it couldn't because obviously lots of Spirits have the sat port occupied.

        Originally posted by Planehazza View Post
        Yeah it requires the use of the Sat port, but so does the ESC telemetry feature. Trouble is, non pro has only one port
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        • #5
          Originally posted by trillian View Post
          Can the telem stuff not go through the sat adaptor that connects to the rudder channel? Seems a bit odd if it couldn't because obviously lots of Spirits have the sat port occupied.
          I don't think so, unfortunately: Jive Telemetry - Spirit System Manual

          Another thing to consider is is my PowerJive 120HV considered a Jive 120HV and is it therefor compatible?
          Harry

          Mikado Logo 700 | VBar Neo | JR HV Servos | Pyro 750-50L | Kontronik Kosmik 160HV + buffer pack|
          Thunder Tiger G4 E720 | CGY760 FBL | BLS272SV + BLS276SV | Align 800MX Dom 440kv | Kontronik PowerJive 120HV + Opti UltraGuard |
          SAB Kraken 580 6S | Spirit FBL | BLS173SV + BLS276SV | HK4025 1100kV | Kontronik Kolibri 140LV + Opti UltraGuard |


          And a pillow for the doghouse...

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          • #6
            Not sure about the Jive telemetry. I had a Jlog once just to log the power peaks but I've never needed actual telemetry from the ESC.

            But it's worth asking in the Spirit forum or on HF (if a dual sat adaptor could be used on the sat port). The manual does not specifically say, but when it talks about the rudder channel sat cable it says "It is suitable for all Spirit units and is recommended when using GeoLink module and/or ESC telemetry that is using a satellite ports". So it's not saying just 'Geolink OR telemetry', it implies that perhaps both could be connected to a sat port - but... that could be only the pro.
            Last edited by trillian; 07-06-2020, 04:46 PM.
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            • #7
              i Have an Frsky integration cable. Pm'd

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              • #8
                Has there been a kontronik range called "jive"? Mine is a powerjive but spirit seem to differentiate between "jive" and "jive pro/Kosmik".
                Harry

                Mikado Logo 700 | VBar Neo | JR HV Servos | Pyro 750-50L | Kontronik Kosmik 160HV + buffer pack|
                Thunder Tiger G4 E720 | CGY760 FBL | BLS272SV + BLS276SV | Align 800MX Dom 440kv | Kontronik PowerJive 120HV + Opti UltraGuard |
                SAB Kraken 580 6S | Spirit FBL | BLS173SV + BLS276SV | HK4025 1100kV | Kontronik Kolibri 140LV + Opti UltraGuard |


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                • #9
                  Basically, before the Jive Pro series, they were all Jives. (powerjive, heli jive, jive 80HV, Jive 100LV etc.)
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by trillian View Post
                    Basically, before the Jive Pro series, they were all Jives. (powerjive, heli jive, jive 80HV, Jive 100LV etc.)
                    mint, that’s what I thought too. Thanks
                    Harry

                    Mikado Logo 700 | VBar Neo | JR HV Servos | Pyro 750-50L | Kontronik Kosmik 160HV + buffer pack|
                    Thunder Tiger G4 E720 | CGY760 FBL | BLS272SV + BLS276SV | Align 800MX Dom 440kv | Kontronik PowerJive 120HV + Opti UltraGuard |
                    SAB Kraken 580 6S | Spirit FBL | BLS173SV + BLS276SV | HK4025 1100kV | Kontronik Kolibri 140LV + Opti UltraGuard |


                    And a pillow for the doghouse...

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                    • #11
                      Did you find a way to have both telemetry and the Geolink? I have a Geolink but have not tried it yet, still just getting used to the Basic Spirit settings and so far I have only flown it on one heli.
                      Kasama, Minicopter, Henseleit, JR, Shape, Beam
                      Robbe, RMJ Raptor gasser, powered by
                      Spartan, Spirit, BeastX, Kontronik, CY Total-G, DX8

                      member of Epsom Downs and Bloobird clubs
                      Proud recipient of 7 EGS! and a platinum star

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by trillian View Post
                        Did you find a way to have both telemetry and the Geolink? I have a Geolink but have not tried it yet, still just getting used to the Basic Spirit settings and so far I have only flown it on one heli.
                        Unfortunately not. There possibly is a way, but I doubt it, not without upgrading to a pro or a 2. I have an additional caveat that has required some planning of the wiring. The FrSky integration cable (rx -> spirit) doesn't carry power, only data.

                        Below is my wiring diagram so that I have dual power (one to fbl and rx each) and backup dual power. Literally have no free ports now anywhere...

                        But, I'm happy to report that telemetry is working nicely Only had one pack connected on the bench, hence a 6S voltage, not 12S.
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                        Last edited by Planehazza; 20-06-2020, 12:09 PM.
                        Harry

                        Mikado Logo 700 | VBar Neo | JR HV Servos | Pyro 750-50L | Kontronik Kosmik 160HV + buffer pack|
                        Thunder Tiger G4 E720 | CGY760 FBL | BLS272SV + BLS276SV | Align 800MX Dom 440kv | Kontronik PowerJive 120HV + Opti UltraGuard |
                        SAB Kraken 580 6S | Spirit FBL | BLS173SV + BLS276SV | HK4025 1100kV | Kontronik Kolibri 140LV + Opti UltraGuard |


                        And a pillow for the doghouse...

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