AR7200BX comparison with V Bar Silverline Pro 5.3

[Phill. H]

Always been a user of AR7200BX systems in my flybarless helis for the last few years, decided to compare performance of both a AR7200BX and a V Bar Silverline Pro 5.3 on a couple of V2 E700 electric helis with similar spec except for the flybarless systems. Have not tweaked anything, just set them up as the instructions say and the V Bar unit for me is by far the best, heli feels more locked in response is crisper and heli has a more direct feel to it. Biggest difference for my style of flying was less of a tail kick on climb outs and speed of axial rolls and flips with the V Bar, AR7200 kicks the tail and axial rolls were a bit on the barrely side, flips were a bit sedate. Will go out and play with the AR7200 settings today, try some precomp on the tail and mess with the control behaviour settings.

[waveydavey]

Are you using the BeastX in Tx settings Phil, the pre sets can give an odd feel to the heli, including laziness etc. The tail has always been the downfall of the BeastX but you can get it better, not completely eradicate the stop behaviour and not sure about the kick with collective as I never run it on a leccy. Theres some great tail tuning guides on HF and the odd vid

[Phill. H]

Are you using the BeastX in Tx settings Phil, the pre sets can give an odd feel to the heli, including laziness etc. The tail has always been the downfall of the BeastX but you can get it better, not completely eradicate the stop behaviour and not sure about the kick with collective as I never run it on a leccy. Theres some great tail tuning guides on HF and the odd vid

Not using Tx settings as it was a direct comparison with the V Bar 5.3 Pro as set up in the manuals, have always used AR7200's and was looking for the difference in flying characteristics of the two but am going to tweak the beastx unit and then go with Tx settings if all else fails.

[waveydavey]

The problem is Phil using roll and flip rates from one of the pre sets changes the rates and expo so it's not a good feel. You are far better going to Tx settings adjusting the rates how you would like them, it would be closer to what you do with the V Bar. It will give a truer feel to a comparison IMO.

[Phill. H]

The problem is Phil using roll and flip rates from one of the pre sets changes the rates and expo so it's not a good feel. You are far better going to Tx settings adjusting the rates how you would like them, it would be closer to what you do with the V Bar. It will give a truer feel to a comparison IMO.

Maybe the way to go but did run Tx settings in the AR7200 a couple of years back on all my helis but went back to presets and as that was all I used then, it seemed fine to me as there was nothing for me to compare it against. Heard folks raving about the V Bar for a while now, so I got myself one and am just messing about now to give me a direct comparison against Spekky unit. V bar worked straight out of the box, no need to fine tune it. Still messing with the AR7200 setups, sort of says it all for me.

[waveydavey]

I suppose horses for courses, I love the BeastX and apart from the tail I think it's a great fit and fly unit. Never needed to tune or trim once setup was complete. The V bar was the same for me out of the box a bit of adjustment and good to go. I suggested Tx mode because that would give you a direct comparison, IE the unit isn't buggering with rates, expo, gains etc

You can't beat the V bar tail though whereas the BeastX is a bit harder to trim

[Phill. H]

My fault for buying a V Bar, just used to fit and forget beastx unit once set, seems more complicated now. Maybe time for a V Control as well LOL

[bigpops]

I was drooling over Carter's earlier today. Didn't know you flew at Rotherham until Terry and Ade were telling me about your E700 score at Fast Lad. I'd already read about it on here with envy.

[Phill. H]

I was drooling over Carter's earlier today. Didn't know you flew at Rotherham until Terry and Ade were telling me about your E700 score at Fast Lad. I'd already read about it on here with envy.

Hope you mean Carter's gasser and not summat else LOL, E700 was a good score but I did not get my 3% discount for cash on the deal as I only popped in with enough cash for a set of mains, still having trouble sleeping due to that oversight.

[bigpops]

I was on about his v Control.

[Phill. H]

I was on about his v Control.

I preferred Terry's V control it was cheaper

[bigpops]

I know. It was me who told him about it and sent him the link.

It was hard not to buy one myself at that price, but I promised myself I wouldn't get a V control until next year. By that time, I'm sure it will cost more, not less.

[Phill. H]

Too much Spektrum stuff myself to warrant a change. Stacks of Spekky Rx's in planks as well as flybarless units helis. Have heard there are different colours of the V control in the pipeline, anyone for pink.

[Phill. H]

Going down the Tx settings route this aft with E700, see how it compares to the weekend flying on presets.

[Phill. H]

Tried Tx settings made several adjustments to expo and rate on ail,elev and rudd. Aileron needed 90% left and 100% right to get equal rollrates and 25% expo, ele left at 100% up and down with 25% expo, tail 80% left 85% right and 20% expo, these settings are same in all flight modes for me. Seems to fly well enough so am leaving it for the time being.