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  • Flybarless Unit with bailout for beginner

    Which flybarless units have bailouts or other aids for beginners?

    Which ones are easy to setup?

    Recommendations?
    Oxy 2 - Spartan VX1n
    Trex 700XN - Spartan VX1n

    Trex 700N DTS - Spartan VX1n
    Logo 690SX - Spartan VX1e
    780L Top - VBar Neo
    2 x 700L Top - Spartan VX1n
    Logo 550SX - Spartan VX1n

    Goblin 570 (6s) - Spartan VX1n
    Trex 550E Pro DFC - Spartan VX1n
    Trex 450L Dominator (6s) - Spartan VX1n
    Trex 450 Plus DFC - Spartan VX1n

    Jeti DS14 BK edition
    DX9
    Pheonix R/C
    AccuRC
    neXt


  • #2
    Bavarian Demon 3SX is the best but not the cheapest, Easy to set-up with the wizard.
    Paul.
    2 x TDR II Bavarian Demon AXON, Pyro Comp 850/50, Kosmik cool 200, Futaba BLS, 15s
    TDR Bavarian Demon 3X, Pyro Comp 750/56, Kosmik cool, 14s, Savox: SB-2282SG, SB-2283SG Tail
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    Bavarian Demon 3SX, Pyro 750/56 comp Kosmik Cool 200, Savox,
    Logo 600SE, Bavarian Demon 3SX, Pyro700/52, 80HV,
    Logo 480 xxtreme, Bavarian Demon 3SX, Scorpion, Savox, YGE,

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    • #3
      Hi mate Bavarian demon 3sx and spirit systems have bailout and stability horizon modes to help stabilise while in flight.
      They not the cheapest units but are worth it I'm my opinion (I've got both units) as they have saved me a few times so have already made their money back from what would of been expensive crash damage.

      Other units which have bailout modes are ikon and skookum 720 never used either so can't comment as to how good they work and wether it's just pure bailout or stability mode.

      May be other units these are the ones that come to mind.
      .Goblin 630....Goblin 500...450L dominator...Assault 700...300 CFX...Trex 450 v2 flybar ..Trex 150 ...Blade Mcpx
      ...BD3SX.........HC3SX.............Spirit......... ..AR7200BX......VX1N........Spartan Quark.....................................

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      • #4
        Cool, I'll have a look into these, what do the horizon modes do? do they try to keep it upright all the time or just if you let go of the sticks? or am i well off?
        Oxy 2 - Spartan VX1n
        Trex 700XN - Spartan VX1n

        Trex 700N DTS - Spartan VX1n
        Logo 690SX - Spartan VX1e
        780L Top - VBar Neo
        2 x 700L Top - Spartan VX1n
        Logo 550SX - Spartan VX1n

        Goblin 570 (6s) - Spartan VX1n
        Trex 550E Pro DFC - Spartan VX1n
        Trex 450L Dominator (6s) - Spartan VX1n
        Trex 450 Plus DFC - Spartan VX1n

        Jeti DS14 BK edition
        DX9
        Pheonix R/C
        AccuRC
        neXt

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        • #5
          Originally posted by chrisleematt21 View Post
          Cool, I'll have a look into these, what do the horizon modes do? do they try to keep it upright all the time or just if you let go of the sticks? or am i well off?
          Depends how strong you have the settings as to how much angle you get on the cyclics but essentially when you let go of the sticks the model self levels altho you will still get forward momentum depending how fast your travelling at the time.

          I have mine set very very slightly so it won't restrict my flying and if I get into trouble I ease off on cyclic input and heli levels or if in big trouble hit the bailout switch which then levels and give positive pitch and shoots upwards.

          Im just starting to learn inverted so it's a god send when I loose orientation !
          .Goblin 630....Goblin 500...450L dominator...Assault 700...300 CFX...Trex 450 v2 flybar ..Trex 150 ...Blade Mcpx
          ...BD3SX.........HC3SX.............Spirit......... ..AR7200BX......VX1N........Spartan Quark.....................................

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          • #6
            Originally posted by umox View Post
            Depends how strong you have the settings as to how much angle you get on the cyclics but essentially when you let go of the sticks the model self levels altho you will still get forward momentum depending how fast your travelling at the time.

            I have mine set very very slightly so it won't restrict my flying and if I get into trouble I ease off on cyclic input and heli levels or if in big trouble hit the bailout switch which then levels and give positive pitch and shoots upwards.

            Im just starting to learn inverted so it's a god send when I loose orientation !
            Im learning inverted without a bailout and its gone horribly wrong more than once!!!!!
            Oxy 2 - Spartan VX1n
            Trex 700XN - Spartan VX1n

            Trex 700N DTS - Spartan VX1n
            Logo 690SX - Spartan VX1e
            780L Top - VBar Neo
            2 x 700L Top - Spartan VX1n
            Logo 550SX - Spartan VX1n

            Goblin 570 (6s) - Spartan VX1n
            Trex 550E Pro DFC - Spartan VX1n
            Trex 450L Dominator (6s) - Spartan VX1n
            Trex 450 Plus DFC - Spartan VX1n

            Jeti DS14 BK edition
            DX9
            Pheonix R/C
            AccuRC
            neXt

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            • #7
              Haha same here got a bit too confident and dug in a few big models then purely started working on Pheonix rc and my Mcpx that thing bounces nicely in long grass, but since installing those units they have helped heaps I don't really get on too well with the sim prefer being out at the field.
              .Goblin 630....Goblin 500...450L dominator...Assault 700...300 CFX...Trex 450 v2 flybar ..Trex 150 ...Blade Mcpx
              ...BD3SX.........HC3SX.............Spirit......... ..AR7200BX......VX1N........Spartan Quark.....................................

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              • #8
                Originally posted by umox View Post
                Haha same here got a bit too confident and dug in a few big models then purely started working on Pheonix rc and my Mcpx that thing bounces nicely in long grass, but since installing those units they have helped heaps I don't really get on too well with the sim prefer being out at the field.
                Might have to look into one for myself and in the long run it would be cheaper than getting lessons to learn to fly inverted!
                Oxy 2 - Spartan VX1n
                Trex 700XN - Spartan VX1n

                Trex 700N DTS - Spartan VX1n
                Logo 690SX - Spartan VX1e
                780L Top - VBar Neo
                2 x 700L Top - Spartan VX1n
                Logo 550SX - Spartan VX1n

                Goblin 570 (6s) - Spartan VX1n
                Trex 550E Pro DFC - Spartan VX1n
                Trex 450L Dominator (6s) - Spartan VX1n
                Trex 450 Plus DFC - Spartan VX1n

                Jeti DS14 BK edition
                DX9
                Pheonix R/C
                AccuRC
                neXt

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                • #9
                  I can only comment on the Spirit unit and only on the bailout. I've recently fitted one and have it setup on Acro bail out so it goes to the nearest level and gains altitude. I've only managed to get a handful of flights with it so far and demo/test it a couple of times each flight and so far it works very well. I went with the Spirit as I wanted to try a bailout function at a reasonable cost not because I felt I needed it but I thought it's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it! A bonus was that the unit is easy to setup and suits my flying style right out of the box.

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                  • #10
                    Its a shame that the VX1n doesn't have a bailout as I have of the buggers already!!!!!

                    I might invest in something with a bailout as it will make learning a little less costly.
                    Oxy 2 - Spartan VX1n
                    Trex 700XN - Spartan VX1n

                    Trex 700N DTS - Spartan VX1n
                    Logo 690SX - Spartan VX1e
                    780L Top - VBar Neo
                    2 x 700L Top - Spartan VX1n
                    Logo 550SX - Spartan VX1n

                    Goblin 570 (6s) - Spartan VX1n
                    Trex 550E Pro DFC - Spartan VX1n
                    Trex 450L Dominator (6s) - Spartan VX1n
                    Trex 450 Plus DFC - Spartan VX1n

                    Jeti DS14 BK edition
                    DX9
                    Pheonix R/C
                    AccuRC
                    neXt

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by chrisleematt21 View Post
                      Its a shame that the VX1n doesn't have a bailout as I have of the buggers already!!!!!

                      I might invest in something with a bailout as it will make learning a little less costly.
                      Angelos is working on it.

                      Bail out - HeliFreak

                      But exactly which of the current unit will be able to accommodate it not known. The question has been asked a few times but has yet to be answered

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                      • #12
                        They give you a lot of confidence. Many times I've flown as the sun is going down and I've lost which direction I've been facing just flick into stability mode and it's all under control. Even when I will no longer need those functions here's hoping anyway it's good to know it's there.
                        .Goblin 630....Goblin 500...450L dominator...Assault 700...300 CFX...Trex 450 v2 flybar ..Trex 150 ...Blade Mcpx
                        ...BD3SX.........HC3SX.............Spirit......... ..AR7200BX......VX1N........Spartan Quark.....................................

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SGD View Post
                          Angelos is working on it.

                          Bail out - HeliFreak

                          But exactly which of the current unit will be able to accommodate it not known. The question has been asked a few times but has yet to be answered
                          It would be awesome if they got it to work with the current units and just as a software update.
                          Oxy 2 - Spartan VX1n
                          Trex 700XN - Spartan VX1n

                          Trex 700N DTS - Spartan VX1n
                          Logo 690SX - Spartan VX1e
                          780L Top - VBar Neo
                          2 x 700L Top - Spartan VX1n
                          Logo 550SX - Spartan VX1n

                          Goblin 570 (6s) - Spartan VX1n
                          Trex 550E Pro DFC - Spartan VX1n
                          Trex 450L Dominator (6s) - Spartan VX1n
                          Trex 450 Plus DFC - Spartan VX1n

                          Jeti DS14 BK edition
                          DX9
                          Pheonix R/C
                          AccuRC
                          neXt

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by umox View Post
                            They give you a lot of confidence. Many times I've flown as the sun is going down and I've lost which direction I've been facing just flick into stability mode and it's all under control. Even when I will no longer need those functions here's hoping anyway it's good to know it's there.
                            If you are inverted do the put you right way up? or just keep you in an inverted hover? Does it keep the same altitude?
                            Oxy 2 - Spartan VX1n
                            Trex 700XN - Spartan VX1n

                            Trex 700N DTS - Spartan VX1n
                            Logo 690SX - Spartan VX1e
                            780L Top - VBar Neo
                            2 x 700L Top - Spartan VX1n
                            Logo 550SX - Spartan VX1n

                            Goblin 570 (6s) - Spartan VX1n
                            Trex 550E Pro DFC - Spartan VX1n
                            Trex 450L Dominator (6s) - Spartan VX1n
                            Trex 450 Plus DFC - Spartan VX1n

                            Jeti DS14 BK edition
                            DX9
                            Pheonix R/C
                            AccuRC
                            neXt

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by chrisleematt21 View Post
                              If you are inverted do the put you right way up? or just keep you in an inverted hover? Does it keep the same altitude?
                              With the Spirit you can choose to have it set up in one of two rescue modes. One it will right itself to upright and then start to climb or two it will go to the nearest level flight be it upright or inverted then start to climb. It will continue to climb as long as you have bailout engaged but the rates at which it rights itself and climbs are adjustable.
                              Last edited by SGD; 19-03-2015, 10:06 AM.

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