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  • Which FBL would you go for...VBar or HC3sx...???

    I am in a complete quandry...???

    I can't decide what to do with our Synergy E7se

    I have a Helicommand HC3sx on it at the moment, but I am struggling a bit with the setup of it! I have gone through all of the setup menu's on the PC and the swash/tail seem to be behaving correctly when moved (but we haven't flown it yet!) I haven't got a clue about the rescue mode just yet, but reading the info it looks like it needs to be flown before you set this up...Is this right????

    The other option is to change the HC3sx for a Vbar silverline pro as we have set loads of these up without any problems and the boy likes how the Vbars fly...!

    Is the Helicommand that much better than the Vbar? I suppose it is the rescue mode that people like?

    So, what do you think we should I do? Do I persevere with the Helicommand, or sell it and put the Vbar on there?

    Cheers, Dave.

  • #2
    do you have any local help available? If there is go with what ever they use locally, experience is always a help!

    If not, Personally im a fan of the vortex, it IME requires very little tweaking to get it flying great and the datapod makes it really easy.
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    • #3
      Hi Dwazzer,

      You need to fly without the rescue to set the head gain. I'm not sure if you have to do this if you have more channels to assign in your radio. The 3sx is quite easy to set up. In the DIAGNOSE tab make sure you change the directions in the TX. Once you go past DIAGNOSE never change any servo direction in the TX only in the software if surfaces dont behave as you expect. FLy heli and set head and tail gains.

      Helifreak has some excellent setup & tuning guides and lots of options on how to set up rescue mode. There are guides for particular radios also.

      bavarianDEMON/HeliCommand - HeliFreak

      Wadders248 on here is a resident expert with the 3SX.
      Last edited by woodsta888; 25-11-2014, 12:24 AM.
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      • #4
        Cheers Guys,

        I think I will give the hc3sx a go, that's a really helpful link woodsta888, Cheers

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        • #5
          Spirit,
          Flys like a Vbar has rescue like the BD, I'm switching my whole fleet over.
          Got a Silverline Vbar on pro you can have for £140 if you like? Or a Gaui mini Vbar on pro for £89?
          Cheers
          D
          .......unless otherwise stated, all opinions are my own.

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          • #6
            Get the spirit , I change my fleet over to them and loving the rescue mode

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            • #7
              I had all demon and went back to Vbar. Can't beat banks. Have to say it flew nice but not as convinient to setup requiring the laptop but once your done your done. Bailout was very nifty but not essential. Entirely depends on your wants as one offers bailout and 1 doesn't. If not stick to Vbar the premium you pay isn't worth it. Another consideration is placement in the Heli. Single unit versus unit and sensor. Some Helis lend to single but you have a bundle of wires, others remote sensor is better place in numerous locations.

              Bottom line either is great.

              MJ

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              • #8
                +1 on the Spirit.

                Banks, Bailout, BT app, easy set up and flies really nicely.

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                • #9
                  Vortex and Spirit are the winners for me now... got all the major units now and they are definitely the best in many ways. Not that a Vbar is bad mind... Spirit has the exact same feel as the vbar and has bail out also. Its cheap and the build quality is great. Probably the best bang for buck but I think I still prefer the feel of my vortex units. That's only because ive flown the Vbar for a while now and I suppose you get sick of the same feel when you fly it regular.
                  All the systems everyones mentioned are fantastic though to be fair Dave. It sounds like you need something with easier setup and the vortex/Vbar/BeastX/Brain V2 all tick those boxes.
                  Last edited by Made2Fade; 25-11-2014, 01:25 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Does the Spirit have only one port for a satellite receiver? If so how do you hook up dual sats?
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                    • #11
                      + 1 for the spirit feel & build quality , very easy to set up , tuning very straight forward , i have sold all but one of my vbars , i found the tail very good on the spirit from the start with only miner adjustment to get it totally locked, unlike the vbar spent lots of time to get the tail locked solid.bail out is excellent & for me the fact i can use this unit on a fly bared heli is a bonus, if like me you still got the paddles

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                      • #12
                        Personally I'd work with what you have, it's a really good fbl unit, so why layout more cash?
                        Best thing to do is seek experienced advice and I mean someone who has set up and flown with good results of the unit themselves and not someone who's got a mate who's got one.
                        Ben Varley uses Demons and is normally someone to seek sound advice from, why not drop him a pm?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jimheli View Post
                          + 1 for the spirit feel & build quality , very easy to set up , tuning very straight forward , i have sold all but one of my vbars , i found the tail very good on the spirit from the start with only miner adjustment to get it totally locked, unlike the vbar spent lots of time to get the tail locked solid.bail out is excellent & for me the fact i can use this unit on a fly bared heli is a bonus, if like me you still got the paddles
                          +1 on all you have said....
                          now its time to change your avatar and sig.........

                          D
                          .......unless otherwise stated, all opinions are my own.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Grumpy View Post
                            Does the Spirit have only one port for a satellite receiver? If so how do you hook up dual sats?
                            Yes it does. To use two you simply use a beastx/tarot style step down adaptor which you can get for buttons from HK or for still not loads of money direct from Tomas at spirit-system.com
                            Cheers
                            D
                            .......unless otherwise stated, all opinions are my own.

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                            • #15
                              Another +1 on the Spirit, the only trouble with the Spirit is getting hold of one!

                              Paul
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