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  • Replacement for 3GX

    I am looking to replace both my 3GX units as I don't seem to be able to set them up very well / easily.

    I am looking for 2 replacements ideally the same make and model. It needs to be easy to set up as I am a beginner, work on both a Trex 550 DFC and 450 DFC. The more stable the better as I am still trying to perfect the basics, but I would like to progress into 3D in the future.

    Can anybody recommend a flybarless unit? I am interested in peoples opinions as I have only ever used the 3G.
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    You can do worse than look at the AR7200Bx a self contained receiver and fbl unit in one that's easy to setup and flys out of the box, the use of LED's to program it comes in for some criticism but not from me I think it's a doddle.
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    • #3
      I have a second hand vbar mini on my 450, and vbars on my 550 and 600. On takeoff, I think precision German engineering. The models are just that solid. Changed from running 3GX units after they released version 4.
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      • #4
        As above or original beastx, can use single sat on 450 with adaptor ,and Rx with 550.
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        • #5
          I have a friend who's flying 450 with 3gx and he's very satisfied. Just started doing some inverted, loops and tik-toks and the heli responds pretty good... Imo, it's not worth upgrading at this point.
          Setup seems pretty easy to me, easier than beastx anyway...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by MishuPtm View Post
            Setup seems pretty easy to me, easier than beastx anyway...
            The fact you have to employ a PC is enough to put some people off, some like me love the LED method, I can romp through a setup from scratch in about 20mins and depending on machine have it flying well in 2 or 3 flights, from what I've seen with the 3GX thats not the case. Yes you can program with the sticks but thats miles worse than a couple of easy to distinguish steps with the BeastX, I would agree that the 3GX does work and only recently our oldest member Mike has successfully setup one on a 450 and has it flying well so it can't be that bad
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            • #7
              IMHO the easiest FBL unit to set up is the one you are used to. They all need something of a learning curve, so if you ask me, if you already have the 3GX then you might as well put the effort into learning how to set it up rather than buying another type.

              I've had a total of four 3GX units and while intimidating at first (all FBL units are) once you get the hang they are simple to set up. I did have some trouble recently after updating firmware but that turned out to be my fault for trying to skip setting up again after updating.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by chrisleematt21 View Post
                I am looking to replace both my 3GX units as I don't seem to be able to set them up very well / easily.

                I am looking for 2 replacements ideally the same make and model. It needs to be easy to set up as I am a beginner, work on both a Trex 550 DFC and 450 DFC. The more stable the better as I am still trying to perfect the basics, but I would like to progress into 3D in the future.

                Can anybody recommend a flybarless unit? I am interested in peoples opinions as I have only ever used the 3G.
                I used to have 3GX but changed for the very reasons you mentioned - I found it very difficult to setup/use. I initially went for the AR7200BX (BeastX) since it really is a doddle to setup. Don't let the LED-only setup sway you - it's nothing like the 3GX and really is easy to get your head around.

                Recently though, I've swayed towards Spartan Vortex (VX1n mostly) and I'm left with only a single AR7200BX which I'll change soon to a VX1n also. The Vortex is really easy to setup too and the datapod just makes it even simpler. The Berk Kammerer setup videos also make it really easy to pick up for someone that hasn't used one before.
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                • #9
                  Maybe I'm a genius because i find the 3GX easy to set up

                  Having said that i know some do struggle because i got the Trex 600pro in my sig complete but unflown at a knock-down price off someone who couldn't get it set up. But honestly, if you follow the step by step process in the manual anyone could set one up, it really isnt hard.
                  Last edited by Grumpy; 22-06-2014, 03:47 PM.
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                  • #10
                    V-Bar or Spartan Vortex.

                    I run run both but really liking the 'feel' of the Spartan more and more.

                    Can't go wrong with either. Both will fly great
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                    • #11
                      what exactly was hard about setting the 3gx up? maybe we can help you save some money. its working fine for me on two of my choppers, and im the same level skill as you flying wise by the sounds of it.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by james_2k View Post
                        what exactly was hard about setting the 3gx up? maybe we can help you save some money.
                        +1.. I've set up four of them on four different helis and a few different software versions. I'm only to happy to help if you are stuck. And there are many more knowledgable then me who will also help I'm sure.
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                        • #13
                          book a lesson with ian
                          aka coolice
                          to learn how to set the 3gx up
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by electricsceadu View Post
                            book a lesson with ian
                            aka coolice
                            to learn how to set the 3gx up

                            +1 on that he s a bit of a master of the 3gx
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by tomatwalden View Post
                              I used to have 3GX but changed for the very reasons you mentioned - I found it very difficult to setup/use. I initially went for the AR7200BX (BeastX) since it really is a doddle to setup. Don't let the LED-only setup sway you - it's nothing like the 3GX and really is easy to get your head around.

                              Recently though, I've swayed towards Spartan Vortex (VX1n mostly) and I'm left with only a single AR7200BX which I'll change soon to a VX1n also. The Vortex is really easy to setup too and the datapod just makes it even simpler. The Berk Kammerer setup videos also make it really easy to pick up for someone that hasn't used one before.
                              I there much difference between the VX1 and the VXn? is one better than the other? As I have looked at this one and its had some great reviews, but the VX1 seems moreexpensive than the VXn?
                              Oxy 2 - Spartan VX1n
                              Trex 700XN - Spartan VX1n

                              Trex 700N DTS - Spartan VX1n
                              Logo 690SX - Spartan VX1e
                              780L Top - VBar Neo
                              2 x 700L Top - Spartan VX1n
                              Logo 550SX - Spartan VX1n

                              Goblin 570 (6s) - Spartan VX1n
                              Trex 550E Pro DFC - Spartan VX1n
                              Trex 450L Dominator (6s) - Spartan VX1n
                              Trex 450 Plus DFC - Spartan VX1n

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